Can't knock Brendan on what he has done.
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Sick of Celtic
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I think when your greatest challengers are Aberdeen.. that says it all.Really?Comment
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Aberdeen played well today. They didn't have the legs for the last 10 mins.Originally posted by Daniel 7 View PostSick of CelticModifying post.Comment
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I don't think that says anything at all, Aberdeen have been the second best team in Scotland for a few years now?Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View Post
Aberdeen have had a good season. When I was a kid Aberdeen won everything they won the Euro Cup Winners, they have pedigree.Modifying post.Comment
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You must have been a kid at a VERY specific point in time... 1981-1985.Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
Sorry but they only had pedigree when SAF managed them - you know that. And when did they win the CWC? 1983? Come on, Preston have pedigree by similar standards.
Seriously, without Rangers, the Scottish competition is a bit of a joke. Good on BR and Celtic for not getting beaten, but winning everything should have been a minimum.Really?Comment
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Well, I was a kid during the 80's, so I don't see how they are any less worthy. There are only a handful of teams who can finish second, Aberdeen are one of them. And they have been second best consistently. They are not a **** team they are a solid football club.Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View Post
The New Firm for most of the 80's were as dominant as the Old Firm have been since.
Scottish football is ****, but the final today was a good game. The reason Celtic win everything is and always has been purely down to money. They outspend the rest of the clubs in the country combined.Modifying post.Comment
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Also Preston have never beaten Real Madrid in a Euro Final.Modifying post.Comment
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Well tbh I wouldn't disagree with any of that. Save I do think you're being a bit more romantic about Aberdeen than I would be, but my point was always about how easy it is for Celtic currently, not really about Aberdeen. But still, I don't think they present Celtic with great competition, and rarely have.Originally posted by Buzzo View PostReally?Comment
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Yep, we can definitely relate to a team that was once great.Originally posted by Tatterdemalion View Post
Scottish football epitomises what's wrong with football in general. My local team Hearts have shipped out a load of promising younger players to replace them with journeyman European players who are out of contract. It's dull and uninspiring as is a lot of football these days.Modifying post.Comment
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Yeah Aberdeen were never going to be able to compete with Celtic over a season, but it was good to see them make a game of it today until the 80th minute where fitness became an issue. They really should have been up before then, given McLean had an open goal chance.
Sure 1983 was a generation ago (they got to the semi final of the ECWC in 1984 and were cheated by a corrupt ref and won the Super Cup in 84 too), but to say they were only relevant between 81 and 85 is incorrect. The momentum of being a successful club carried on until the mid 90s - they were the only club able to challenge Rangers when Celtic were struggling. 1991 went down to the last day of the season and 93 was the treble runner up season.
But yeah, Celtic are streets ahead financially. The others can't compete.Comment
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It's really difficult to judge Rodgers' achievement at Celtic, it's only the 4th time Celtic have done the domestic treble so he will receive praise and a place in history for that, as the only other Celtic managers to do that are Jock Stein and Martin O'Neill.
Going through the season unbeaten is also a great achievement, the problem is the quality of the opposition, Celtic have won the league for the previous 5 years and the margin of that has been by at least 15 points each year. Obviously they have had to keep focus, which they probably let slip previously which has cost them cups in the past.
I always feel that the domestic treble in Scotland is something that is very often an option and in a period of dominance, Celtic (or Rangers previously) are capable of doing it every few years. In the last 25 years it has been done 5 times, twice by Celtic under O'Neill and now Rodgers, and 3 times by Rangers under Walter Smith, Dick Advocaat and Alex McLeish. I think that to prove himself there Rodgers really has to sustain this unbeaten run, keep winning trophies and improve their performances in Europe, if he is to raise his stock as with all due respect to the managers named, few of those have had much success outside of Scotland.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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Great achievement but it really is a **** league with probably only 6 meaningful testing games a season. When Scott Brown and Sinclair look like world beaters you know the levels of the league."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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Seen a report over the weekend that Rodgers recently gave a presentation where he mentioned he'd lost his mojo by the end of his time at Liverpool. I always thought he got himself into some sort of bad position with the players following the defeats against ManUre (2-1, with Gerrard getting sent-off) and Arsenal (4-1, where he tore Kolo Toure off a strip in front of the squad), didn't have the credibility after that to stop the rest of the season being a farewell tour for Gerrard, and picked up signs over the summer that FSG were looking to replace him but could not land the right person. Certainly he started the 2015/16 season very flat.
I think he could still develop into a good manager and in many ways I hope that he does (tho' not at our expense). But no manager in recent times has left Celtic and prospered - I think managing in a league with no competition teaches you bad habits - so he must make serious inroads in Europe next year or get out for a new challenge at the end of the season.Comment
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