Brendan Rodgers

[Lecter]

Keep him and let's see what next season brings. What's the worst that can happen? Or perhaps what's the best that can happen if we change? We aren't winning the league with either options as neither manager will have a magic wand. A bit of patience in a world with so little, its asking a lot I know.

I do get this view point but look at it this way

We spent £120 million last year and brought in a whole host of new players, and it hasnt worked out. It was almost a complete rebuild of the squad

We are clearly going to rebuilding again this summer with or without Brendan.

If we keep Brendan and nothing improves we will be rebuilding again next summer

Do we really want to be rebuilding 3 seasons in a row???

I'd rather make the switch now, do a rebuild this summer and then tweak the plan going forward

I'm less than convinced we will be doing that under Rodgers

[captainfog]

I still don't think it's a case of him needing to go at all costs though. There has to be a better option in place

I've got to the point with Rodgers where I think I might actually hate him. I'd rather Kenny came back for season than have to endure another 12 months of Brendan at the helm.

[Muddled]

I think the failings in last year's summer transfer window has forced Rodgers' hand during season. All this talk of varying tactics, players out of position, etc, is down to Rodgers having to make do rather than playing to his own strengths.

As Rodgers is heavily involved in the transfer committee, he has to be held accountable for these failings, obviously. But I think if FSG need to learn from these errors too.

[BobTheCharmer]

I do get this view point but look at it this way

We spent £120 million last year and brought in a whole host of new players, and it hasnt worked out. It was almost a complete rebuild of the squad

We are clearly going to rebuilding again this summer with or without Brendan.

If we keep Brendan and nothing improves we will be rebuilding again next summer

Do we really want to be rebuilding 3 seasons in a row???

I'd rather make the switch now, do a rebuild this summer and then tweak the plan going forward

I'm less than convinced we will be doing that under Rodgers

Its football. A game of bloody football played almost entirely by egotistical mercenaries. Its ****ed. With the current model in place we can't compete to win the best prizes, at best we can hope to do an Arsenal. Isn't that an exciting prospect. Ten years ago I'd want him sacked now I don't think I care enough either way.

[captainfog]

I think the failings in last year's summer transfer window has forced Rodgers' hand during season. All this talk of varying tactics, players out of position, etc, is down to Rodgers having to make do rather than playing to his own strengths.

As Rodgers is heavily involved in the transfer committee, he has to be held accountable for these failings, obviously. But I think if FSG need to learn from these errors too.

Making do? He's got a perfectly serviceable right back at the club in the shape of Manquillo but instead he plays Can who is a very ordinary at right back (and that's being kind to the lad because I like him). Everywhere you look players are being needlessly played out of position. There is no making do about it, he's needlessly overcomplicated things.

[Lecter]

I think the failings in last year's summer transfer window has forced Rodgers' hand during season. All this talk of varying tactics, players out of position, etc, is down to Rodgers having to make do rather than playing to his own strengths.

As Rodgers is heavily involved in the transfer committee, he has to be held accountable for these failings, obviously. But I think if FSG need to learn from these errors too.

I dont

He always wants to go back to the Swansea system

Hes done that each of the 3 seasons hes been here

When that invariably hasnt worked hes switched to some other system which generally works for awhile

to me it isnt just playing players out of position, its way more complex than that

Hes made so many errors of judgement this season, its hard to actually point at one success hes had this season.

[Yozza]

I've got to the point with Rodgers where I think I might actually hate him. I'd rather Kenny came back for season than have to endure another 12 months of Brendan at the helm.

Hate is a very strong word

I've never really taken to him - I was starting to warm to him last season but after all his constant bull****ting I have to admit I am starting to dislike him - nowhere near Bodge standards of course

[tanner]

I don't think anyone's saying FSG out because we dislike them or think they're doing a terrible job, I think there's suddenly a realism that they're not going to be able to take us back to the top and sustain it, as we'd hoped. I think there's a naivety there too, with regards to football, and I'm not sure that they yet believe that there's a huge difference between football and baseball.

If we're prepared to accept a battle for 4th with the odd cup run/win every 5 years or so then they're perfectly acceptable. If we still harbour hopes of greatness, then I think we need new owners who have the finances to throw £200m net at the squad in the first season and add to it with a top player each season, paying the wages required to attract them.

[Yozza]

Making do? He's got a perfectly serviceable right back at the club in the shape of Manquillo but instead he plays Can who is a very ordinary at right back (and that's being kind to the lad because I like him). Everywhere you look players are being needlessly played out of position. There is no making do about it, he's needlessly overcomplicated things.

[Lecter]

Making do? He's got a perfectly serviceable right back at the club in the shape of Manquillo but instead he plays Can who is a very ordinary at right back (and that's being kind to the lad because I like him). Everywhere you look players are being needlessly played out of position. There is no making do about it, he's needlessly overcomplicated things.

Not playing strikers but perfectly happy to play non-goal-scoring midfielders in those positions

Hes well over complicated things

One of the biggest ****ing worries going forward for me is the midfield

People can talk about needing strikers and defenders but the midfield needs major major surgery. Milner will help but thats going to be putting a plaster on an arterial wound

[Darkon]

The thing that worries me the most is the possibility that Brendan has lost the dressing room. If that's the case, you cannot get it back. Period. Even if Gerrard and Johnson has gone.

Tbh. I think that's the only really deciding factor here. If the team is behind him, then there are good grounds for keeping him - if not then there not much to build on.

[Muddled]

I've got to the point with Rodgers where I think I might actually hate him.

It does come across that way in your football posts.

[Rigadon]

Only the inner circle of players staff will know whether he has lost the dressing room anything else is speculation

With regards to things taking time I think there would be more leeway given if there was some green shoots being shown but there isnt

But I think playing people out of position, not playing any strikers, switching and swapping positions etc.. just makes me think he doesnt actually have any real faith in any system or direction

I think there have been green shoots - I like our young squad and I fully expect the players to step up next season (without the obvious distractions). However, we definitely need three top class players (CB, DM and striker) to help us compete for the league.

As for playing the wrong players/systems - I agree that this season has been a disaster. Playing Lovren and trying to fit Gerrard in the first eleven didn't work - and our results in the first third of the season showed this. It got better when the system changed, Lucas was fit (and Lovren and Gerrard were not in the side).

The last couple of months have been about Gerrard and Sterling.

Had Sakho, Lucas and Sturridge been fit throughout this season, I've no doubt that we would have finished in the top four.

[Buzzo]

Other than defence, midfield and attack though, he's pretty much nailed it. Oh no, wait, there was that issue with Mignolet earlier in the season.

[tanner]

Other than defence, midfield and attack though, he's pretty much nailed it. Oh no, wait, there was that issue with Mignolet earlier in the season.

This is the most damning aspect after 3 years and £220m.

Are we happy with the defence. No.
Are we happy with the midfield. No.
Are we happy with the attack. No.
GK. No.

Asked if we think we need most of a new spine to the side, I'm sure most would say yes.

That's unforgivable at the stage.

I have a fear that Rodgers is one of these people who just sort of throws things together, or tries new things without a great deal of thought about what goes where and what impact it'll have. Sometimes it works, but its all very much hit and miss.