Steven Gerrard

[Kenneth]

This is a manager who played a complete imposter (Ali Dia) for 53mins of a PL game for Southampton. I think sourness was winging it just as much tbh. Up there with Gerrard for me on the list of great liverpool players mind.

[wongers]

Gerrard will be a horrendous manager

how do you know do you have a crystal ball that gives you accurate info,if so could you p.m. me the winning lottery numbers for this coming saturday

[Tatterdemalion]

I'm only going on the stat, and don't know exactly which games Kenny played. But he definitely didn't always start himself when he was PM.

I'm not saying it was the right decision either, clearly Kenny was the better player, but I guess at what, 34/35 with the added responsibilities of management he couldn't play every game.

I'm not sure at that stage he even wanted to play every game. Besides, it was Marina picking the team. Everyone knows that.

[Mark79]

I also thought that Roy Keane would be a good manager. And I think he might still be. But I think it is rare that a top player can become a top manager. For every Guardiola or Conte, there are numerous people who have failed.

Is it really that rare though?

Factor in the 'distillation' process -
How many players become mangers.
Of those that do, how many of them were top players.
And finally, how many managers (from all playing levels) have outstanding managerial careers.

If you look back at the top mangers, I don't think it's that rare at all.
At least no rarer than those who had average or unremarkable playing careers, or those who made their way through coaching before becoming a manager.

Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Del Bosque, Jacuet, Capello, Trapattoni, Heynckes, Dalglish, Ancelotti. Ok, so 2 or 3 here maybe not top players relative to the others, but they all at least had distinguished careers as key players in top teams. All outstanding players, or players who had outstanding careers. Now there's Pep, Conte, Simeone, and Luis Enrique adding themselves to the list.

If you were drawing up a Top 10 greatest managers ever, there's at least 6 contenders there alone.

[fowlen]

Reports in Australia this morning saying that A league clubs are trying to lure him (and Robbie Keane) from January for up to 14 matches. Melbourne being mentioned as a possible destination (but they would need Football Federation Australia to stump up $1m).

Despite his age, getting SG to play in Australia would be massive for the sport here.

[Red_Polo]

Is it really that rare though?

Factor in the 'distillation' process -
How many players become mangers.
Of those that do, how many of them were top players.
And finally, how many managers (from all playing levels) have outstanding managerial careers.

If you look back at the top mangers, I don't think it's that rare at all.
At least no rarer than those who had average or unremarkable playing careers, or those who made their way through coaching before becoming a manager.

Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Del Bosque, Jacuet, Capello, Trapattoni, Heynckes, Dalglish, Ancelotti. Ok, so 2 or 3 here maybe not top players relative to the others, but they all at least had distinguished careers as key players in top teams. All outstanding players, or players who had outstanding careers. Now there's Pep, Conte, Simeone, and Luis Enrique adding themselves to the list.

If you were drawing up a Top 10 greatest managers ever, there's at least 6 contenders there alone.

Yes, I think you're probably far more likely to be a top manager if you're a top player. Leaving aside any notion of additional transferable skills, you get more opportunity. It's all the more 'rare' for a player to become a top manager.

[Buzzo]

Is it really that rare though?

By Pepe 79

Factor in the 'distillation' process -
How many players become mangers.
Of those that do, how many of them were top players.
And finally, how many managers (from all playing levels) have outstanding managerial careers.

If you look back at the top mangers, I don't think it's that rare at all.
At least no rarer than those who had average or unremarkable playing careers, or those who made their way through coaching before becoming a manager.

Fin

Did you start this response as a poem? I think the first 8 lines of this written in iambic pentameter? It all kind of falls after this at the end tho.

[Paul12]

how do you know do you have a crystal ball that gives you accurate info,if so could you p.m. me the winning lottery numbers for this coming saturday

Well, he had the tactical nous of a gnat as a player so he would have to be a Kevin Keegan manager ...and that ended in tears.

[Mark79]

Did you start this response as a poem? I think the first 8 lines of this written in iambic pentameter? It all kind of falls after this at the end tho.

I believe that all of my posts are works of literature, in one form or another.

[banditos]

Reports in Australia this morning saying that A league clubs are trying to lure him (and Robbie Keane) from January for up to 14 matches. Melbourne being mentioned as a possible destination (but they would need Football Federation Australia to stump up $1m).

Despite his age, getting SG to play in Australia would be massive for the sport here.

Following the path well trodden by Fowler and Hesky.

FFA just stumped up a fair bit of coin to entice Tim Cahill to Melbourne City, so I can't see them doing the same for SG. The other clubs in the A-league are already fuming that a club owned by the Mansours was given a leg-up, not to mention that Man City have been buying players from the A-league and loaning them back to Melbourne City!

But it would be fkn amazing if Stevie played in the A-league.

[dom9]

Did you start this response as a poem? I think the first 8 lines of this written in iambic pentameter? It all kind of falls after this at the end tho.

A new rule for a day, when all posts have to be written in either iambic pentameter or limericks.

[Mark79]

A new rule for a day, when all posts have to be written in either iambic pentameter or limericks.

Seconded. At least that'll liven up your film reviews.

[dom9]

Seconded. At least that'll liven up your film reviews.

[Mark79]

[Lecter]

Saw him on Sunday in a restaurant in Crosby

I am none too convinced he will leave the Liverpool area his family is settled here, kids are in school here (they stayed here when he went to LA)