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    Originally posted by Chris View Post
    I think it's everyones fault, I think Jurgen is stubborn as ****, I dont think Edwards and co are good enough, it's impossible nowadays for a manager to know every player everywhere, the time to scout etc isn't there, it's up to them to suggest him players, he's admitted he knew nothing of Solanke and he looks a decent prospect. And it's the owners fault for continuing to employ inept people. The summer was shambolic and not just from a lack of signings, the Van Dijk situation was totally humiliating.
    100% agree with this. We've had **** backroom support for years. How many ex-managers have come with stories after they have left about this. We seem to have an ownership curse.

    FSG is better than the last set with Mane, Salah and Firmino signings but they have also dropped the ball in other key areas.

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      Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
      That would be dumb of him to do. What do you think he is a union rep?
      Would it? Rafa had no problem at all on doing it. But yeah, it's a falling on your sword move but like I said I'd have respect for him if he did.

      BTW, he's hinted as such already.

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        I think LFC got the Jurgen Klopp who left BVB in a relegation battle rather than the Klopp who won the Bundesliga.

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          Originally posted by labourRed View Post
          Would it? Rafa had no problem at all on doing it. But yeah, it's a falling on your sword move but like I said I'd have respect for him if he did.

          BTW, he's hinted as such already.
          So you had more respect for Raga, fine but how did that benefit Rafa and Liverpool in the end? Badly for everyone.

          Never call out your boss in public plus especially in the Prem all that will do is help sell more **** tabloids.

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            Originally posted by Bender View Post
            I think LFC got the Jurgen Klopp who left BVB in a relegation battle rather than the Klopp who won the Bundesliga.
            Lets just turn our backs on another manager, call for him to get the sack, bring in another and do it all over again.....

            ****ing hell.....

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              Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
              Lets just turn our backs on another manager, call for him to get the sack, bring in another and do it all over again.....

              ****ing hell.....
              Or just keep trying with whoever is available at the time...

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                Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                Lets just turn our backs on another manager, call for him to get the sack, bring in another and do it all over again.....

                ****ing hell.....
                as if klopp is blameless

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                  Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                  So you had more respect for Raga, fine but how did that benefit Rafa and Liverpool in the end? Badly for everyone.

                  Never call out your boss in public plus especially in the Prem all that will do is help sell more **** tabloids.
                  Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                  Lets just turn our backs on another manager, call for him to get the sack, bring in another and do it all over again.....

                  ****ing hell.....
                  You've answered yourself here. What if the blame lies in the owners not spending while bull****ting. We'll change the manager while the manager gets a golden handshake. Rinse, repeat.

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                    Originally posted by Bender View Post
                    as if klopp is blameless
                    I never said that, but im not pretending that we can attack better options or there are better options. The root is the backroom staff, been that way years.

                    Since we last won the League we had a compete team ONCE!!! that's the ywarbwe finished second with Rafa and we choked that one away.

                    With Brendan we just outscored everyone when he got second, our defending was **** and center mids were mediocre then.

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                      Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                      You've answered yourself here. What if the blame lies in the owners not spending while bull****ting. We'll change the manager while the manager gets a golden handshake. Rinse, repeat.
                      We're on the same page but the manager going to the press is not the answer, if any changes are made that manager will not be there to see it anyway. Plus that hardly ever works, these are hardened ruthless business people, they won't give a **** if some 'soccer' manager moans in the press about them while making all this money, they'll just sack him and move on.

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                        fuuuuuuuck me ....... calling for Klopps head .... Wow !! just ****ing wow ... I would say I am surprised .. I not ... Worlds a ****ing cesspit of stupidity right now ... this is very in keeping with how everything else is going

                        Time to **** off again
                        Deary me
                        Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                        #****CITY

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                          Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                          fuuuuuuuck me ....... calling for Klopps head .... Wow !! just ****ing wow ... I would say I am surprised .. I not ... Worlds a ****ing cesspit of stupidity right now ... this is very in keeping with how everything else is going

                          Time to **** off again
                          Deary me
                          Bye!

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                            Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                            fuuuuuuuck me ....... calling for Klopps head .... Wow !! just ****ing wow ... I would say I am surprised .. I not ... Worlds a ****ing cesspit of stupidity right now ... this is very in keeping with how everything else is going

                            Time to **** off again
                            Deary me


                            Agreed, it's crazy....

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                              No way should there be sacking talk imo.
                              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                                Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
                                We're on the same page but the manager going to the press is not the answer, if any changes are made that manager will not be there to see it anyway. Plus that hardly ever works, these are hardened ruthless business people, they won't give a **** if some 'soccer' manager moans in the press about them while making all this money, they'll just sack him and move on.
                                Sure. But the worm will turn from the fans as it did in the H&G tenure.

                                We're talking hypotheticals here but I'm deflecting off Klopp for the time being.

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