Originally posted by DeeTheDog
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I share your frustrations with the season so far and the performance of the Manchester clubs only magnifies that; however, I do not think it is as bad as you and others make out. We are still creating enough chances to win games and although we have conceded some poor goals we don't concede that many attempts on our goal. Yes we should have more wins but we are not getting beat either with our first 11 apart from the City game with 10 men.
The summer transfer window was confusing but it was clear we had set targets and were determined to get them and were prepared to wait. Not bringing in someone instead of Van Dijk looks like it has backfired but we need to give it until the end of the season before drawing conclusions. We could get Van Djik in January after showing that he is fully rehabilitated at Southampton playing Premiership football rather in our under 23s .
I disagree on the midfield and personally think Henderson has played well these past few games. Several managers and team mates including Gerrard cannot that bad a judge on Henderson's captainship. You do not end up captain of England and Liverpool because you are the least worst option. Further, the composition of the midfield was changed to counter the deep lying defence with Coutinho moving deeper to the 8 role to create openings; however, that was thrown into the air with Barca saga over the summer and we've only recently had an opportunity to see this in action. Like most change it will take a while to adjust and with Keita coming in we are looking to improve it further. Like most things at Liverpool currently we need to give it more time.
We have discussed the Firmino issue in the Firmino thread but to reiterate he is not just there to press, he is there to create space for the other attacking players. He drops deep moving their CBs so that Mane and Salah can both attack the space. We were one of the top scorers last season and I can see no reason why we won’t be again.
As for limping to 4th place? I think you need to check the results at the end of last season. Whilst under pressure from United and Arsenal; two teams who is recent history have outperformed us whilst spending huge amounts of money we held firm keeping clean sheets and winning.
The summer transfer window was confusing but it was clear we had set targets and were determined to get them and were prepared to wait. Not bringing in someone instead of Van Dijk looks like it has backfired but we need to give it until the end of the season before drawing conclusions. We could get Van Djik in January after showing that he is fully rehabilitated at Southampton playing Premiership football rather in our under 23s .
I disagree on the midfield and personally think Henderson has played well these past few games. Several managers and team mates including Gerrard cannot that bad a judge on Henderson's captainship. You do not end up captain of England and Liverpool because you are the least worst option. Further, the composition of the midfield was changed to counter the deep lying defence with Coutinho moving deeper to the 8 role to create openings; however, that was thrown into the air with Barca saga over the summer and we've only recently had an opportunity to see this in action. Like most change it will take a while to adjust and with Keita coming in we are looking to improve it further. Like most things at Liverpool currently we need to give it more time.
We have discussed the Firmino issue in the Firmino thread but to reiterate he is not just there to press, he is there to create space for the other attacking players. He drops deep moving their CBs so that Mane and Salah can both attack the space. We were one of the top scorers last season and I can see no reason why we won’t be again.
As for limping to 4th place? I think you need to check the results at the end of last season. Whilst under pressure from United and Arsenal; two teams who is recent history have outperformed us whilst spending huge amounts of money we held firm keeping clean sheets and winning.
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