Jürgen Klopp

[The_weatherman]

City look so strong, it's a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. I think though Klopp needs to win a trophy. We've progressed massively and come so close to 2 European trophies and a domestic cup but we need to start winning some silverware.

I think we can only ask for a challenge, we are up against one of the best sides ever assembled in England, with the most resources and the highest rated manager today. They should be favourites for every competition they enter.

[Buzzo]

City look so strong, it's a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. I think though Klopp needs to win a trophy. We've progressed massively and come so close to 2 European trophies and a domestic cup but we need to start winning some silverware.

Saying that suggests something needs to happen if he doesn’t deliver.

He has made us competitive, to the point we have only dropped 6 points after thirteen games.

I don’t see anyone doing any better than him.

[Fredo]

Yup. Our expectations are a bit too high. Let's enjoy the ride. We want to win a trophy is a more appropriate projection. We don't need to.

[Alex]

I find the attitude that we are just supposed to be happy with 2nd because City are too good a bit difficult to understand. Expectations are too high? Winning the league is mine, anything else this year and ill feel a bit deflated.

Buzzo is also right in saying I dont see anyone else doing better in the current situation. But, I dont think its bad to expect the title.

We need to shake the attitude of being 2nd,3rd,4th being a good thing. Anything less than 1st should be considered bad. Its a mentality thing more than anything. But why do we have to be measured this season as fans?

[dom9]

I think we'll do it.

And if we don't, I won't be putting the knife in.

[Pablo]

I find the attitude that we are just supposed to be happy with 2nd because City are too good a bit difficult to understand. Expectations are too high? Winning the league is mine, anything else this year and ill feel a bit deflated.

Buzzo is also right in saying I dont see anyone else doing better in the current situation. But, I dont think its bad to expect the title.

We need to shake the attitude of being 2nd,3rd,4th being a good thing. Anything less than 1st should be considered bad. Its a mentality thing more than anything. But why do we have to be measured this season as fans?

Here we go again........

There's nothing wrong with wanting the title, but expecting it given how phenomenally good this City team are is just not fair IMO.

They're on target for 100 points for the second successive season. It's unparalleled.

If we finish second on 99pts and you consider that bad, then I'll consider you a bellend.

[Fosterbloke]

I'm loathe to admit how good Guardiola is.

I really thought he'd get found out in the Premier League.

But the important thing is that WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO WIN TROPHIES.

[Phoenix07]

Klopp's building a side to challenge for the title season after season, which I still don't think fans have realised yet. If we finish 3rd or 2nd, and are very close, then great. Let's go again next season, and the season after that.

I've mentioned this point before, but I'm sure as a fanbase, we'll come to realise it. I want us to be challenging every season. Again, under Houllier, Benitez and Rodgers, we came 2nd for one season, and fell off a cliff after those respective seasons, and we felt sorry for ourselves (well, Rafa had G&H, so that's excusable), because of Macheda, or because of Gerrard's slip, and the 3-3 against Palace. We don't win the title this season, and I'm sure we'll feel sorry for ourselves because we're against an amazing Man City side.

Klopp's trying to build something sustainable on the pitch, so that we can compete on multiple fronts every season. He has experience with Mainz of losing out on promotion through goal difference and one point, and finally getting it right at the third attempt. He has experience of overcoming the odds, and rising from the ashes. Thank God he's in a position of influence, so that if it happens to us, we can rise up again.

Considering the peaks and troughs since the 2009/10 season (Rafa's last season), well, I'm delighted where we are, and to even be competing with Guardiola's petrodollar funded team of winners, even if we don't win the league. I just want us to be challenging every season, and if we don't, to then have a clear idea of how to fix it.

[Norbs]

I'm loathe to admit how good Guardiola is.

I really thought he'd get found out in the Premier League.

But the important thing is that WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION TO WIN TROPHIES.

If he's ever going to be found out then it won't be until he's competing on a level playing field

[danperkins]

I think we can only ask for a challenge, we are up against one of the best sides ever assembled in England, with the most resources and the highest rated manager today. They should be favourites for every competition they enter.

Saying that suggests something needs to happen if he doesn’t deliver.

He has made us competitive, to the point we have only dropped 6 points after thirteen games.

I don’t see anyone doing any better than him.

I am not saying we have to win the league, it's not a level playing field and we are constantly playing catch up. What I am saying is that for the club, supporters and for Klopp himself who has lost the last 6 finals.... winning something along with a solid title challenge would be a massive boost to the club. I don't expect us to win the league but I do expect us to challenge, I was annoyed we got knocked out of the league cup so early.

At the end of the day we brought Klopp in to try to win things, we are not exactly a small club. We potentially could have won the Carling Cup, Europa League & Champs league in 2 seasons. We have lost 3 finals back to back, this club needs a trophy... otherwise what's the point?

[Lecter]

City look so strong, it's a bit of a bitter pill to swallow. I think though Klopp needs to win a trophy. We've progressed massively and come so close to 2 European trophies and a domestic cup but we need to start winning some silverware.

Personally I wouldnt set silverware as something Klopp needs to do this season, but also you have to remember that City are also competing for other trophies also

In regards to the league I think his job is to get closer to City than last year. We finished what 25 points behind them?? In my opinion he needs to get closer than that, cut the deficit down and see where we are at the end of this season

[Lecter]

I find the attitude that we are just supposed to be happy with 2nd because City are too good a bit difficult to understand. Expectations are too high? Winning the league is mine, anything else this year and ill feel a bit deflated.

Buzzo is also right in saying I dont see anyone else doing better in the current situation. But, I dont think its bad to expect the title.

We need to shake the attitude of being 2nd,3rd,4th being a good thing. Anything less than 1st should be considered bad. Its a mentality thing more than anything. But why do we have to be measured this season as fans?

I think expecting us to win the title is a bit much, its very dismissive of the competition who are exceptional

[danperkins]

Personally I wouldnt set silverware as something Klopp needs to do this season, but also you have to remember that City are also competing for other trophies also

In regards to the league I think his job is to get closer to City than last year. We finished what 25 points behind them?? In my opinion he needs to get closer than that, cut the deficit down and see where we are at the end of this season

we will definitely get closer this season & as I said I don't expect us to win the league City are a fabulous outfit & are experienced winners. I just feel that some silverware (even likes of FA or League Cup) would have been great for the club. I know many on here weren't arsed getting knocked out of the league cup but I was gutted as it was a great opportunity for silverware & of course to getting all of the squad match sharp, just unfortunate that we got Chelsea.

We don't want to become Arsenal under Wenger but I do get that qualifying for the champs league every season is a must, financially & of course to attract the best players. We've been playing catch up & it has been too long without a trophy. We have come so close recently... would be nice to see the lads & Klopp lifting a cup.

[Alex]

Sod the opposition. Just be better. If city get 99 points then we need 100. Why the hesitation to want to win?

I won’t want changes made, but I’ll be disappointed if we fail to win.

If you run a race, you don’t go into it thinking the faster bloke will win. You go in expecting to win and wanting to do better next time if you fail.

[Alex]

Do you think all men’s 100m runners thought “yeah, fair ****s. Bolt is better, I’m happy with second” or do you think it pushed them to go harder next time?