Jürgen Klopp

[danperkins]

He’s not and he’s been equally as bad as some if the players. He’s one of the best things to happen in the clubs history but nobody is immune from criticism if it is merited.

[BigChief]

We can't lose Klopp. He is the one band aid holding us together. I'm sure he's the biggest critic of himself.

[spud_gun]

We can't lose Klopp. He is the one band aid holding us together. I'm sure he's the biggest critic of himself.

It all goes to **** if Klopp goes.

No other manager would get us close to what he has done with the same resources.

[Fosterbloke]

It all goes to **** if Klopp goes.

No other manager would get us close to what he has done with the same resources.

It's all going to **** now so nothing will change really.

[Mr Pink]

It's all going to **** now so nothing will change really.

Simmer down ffs… I’m sure we’ll get our form back at some stage… unfortunately I think already too much damage has been done in terms of a title challenge, if city can do anything like they have done the last few seasons.

But come on, only a moron would think it makes no difference if klopp leaves..

[little dave hedgehog]

it's so odd to me that there seems to be very few people who are ok with the idea that a club can have an off year. it happens. after the last few years where we've gone absolute gangbusters, i'm ready to forgive a single bad season in transition. if the rot sets in, that's another thing, but that's not something that happens over a summer with minimal squad turnover. i'm sure the klopp era will continue to deliver once it shakes off this malaise, and if not then we move on. alex ferguson had some bad years, but you can't argue that united stagnated under him.

[Kenneth]

I’d be okay with the offer of one bad year, but I’m not sure that’s on the table.

[little dave hedgehog]

I’d be okay with the offer of one bad year, but I’m not sure that’s on the table.

taken in context with all of the previous seasons with klopp at the club, this is an anomaly.

[Frog83]

I’d be okay with the offer of one bad year, but I’m not sure that’s on the table.

I agree. Doubt we'll sign our top (or close to) midfield targets until next summer and unless they slot in seamlessly we see yet another transition year. Can't see us challenging for the top again for quite some time, probably similar to how long it took Klopp to get us challenging in the first place.

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[Fierce]

it's so odd to me that there seems to be very few people who are ok with the idea that a club can have an off year. it happens. after the last few years where we've gone absolute gangbusters, i'm ready to forgive a single bad season in transition. if the rot sets in, that's another thing, but that's not something that happens over a summer with minimal squad turnover. i'm sure the klopp era will continue to deliver once it shakes off this malaise, and if not then we move on. alex ferguson had some bad years, but you can't argue that united stagnated under him.

And its not even 2 months into this 'write off' of a season

[calvoboy]

And its not even 2 months into this 'write off' of a season

Keep the faith. If we think we know half of what's going wrong at the moment you can rest assured Klopp knows all of it. He'll get us going again. Just like he did in the post league-winning season when we lost all our centre-backs and were ****e for ages. Even if, like then, he makes a few errors of his own while trying to adjust.

[Buzzo]

it's so odd to me that there seems to be very few people who are ok with the idea that a club can have an off year. it happens. after the last few years where we've gone absolute gangbusters, i'm ready to forgive a single bad season in transition. if the rot sets in, that's another thing, but that's not something that happens over a summer with minimal squad turnover. i'm sure the klopp era will continue to deliver once it shakes off this malaise, and if not then we move on. alex ferguson had some bad years, but you can't argue that united stagnated under him.

[Pablo]

it's so odd to me that there seems to be very few people who are ok with the idea that a club can have an off year. it happens. after the last few years where we've gone absolute gangbusters, i'm ready to forgive a single bad season in transition. if the rot sets in, that's another thing, but that's not something that happens over a summer with minimal squad turnover. i'm sure the klopp era will continue to deliver once it shakes off this malaise, and if not then we move on. alex ferguson had some bad years, but you can't argue that united stagnated under him.

Great post. I think the worry is it bleeds into more than one season.

I think the best thing we can do is accept we are a team in transition and in the midst of a rebuild. That is unlikely to go smoothly and we're experiencing that.

I think this wouldn't be such a big deal if it wasn't for City. We've positioned ourselves as their (only) rivals. They set an impossible benchmark and seemingly never have a bad season so it makes our drop in form all the harder to accept.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Klopp is a bum.

All he does is build great team, win things and come across as an all round great guy.

Last day relegation fights, pitch invasions and booing is where it is at.

[The_weatherman]

I’d be okay with the offer of one bad year, but I’m not sure that’s on the table.

This.

We need a major overhaul and given that we are taking several backwards steps while the other clubs are moving forward, it's not encouraging. Chelsea getting Nkunku is gutting, Arsenal will only get better, City are awesome and then there is only a matter of time when Newcastle enter the mix. We really couldn't afford this sort of complacency.

Not asking for Klopp to be sacked mind you, never in a million years. But I'm really disappointed we were so arrogant and complacent.