I might be a loan voice here, but I like FSG. Apart from the super league fiasco and ticket price hikes, which they listened to, They run the club within its means and have steadily built up the infrastructure and the commercial streams. If you remove the financial doping clubs out of the equation, then we are in the top two or three clubs in European football. Don’t get me wrong, as fans we always want more, that extra couple of players…..there’s always someone in any squad who you want replacing, no matter how good you are. I think people are quick to forget where we were before FSG came along. I for one have enjoyed seeing us battling for trophies over the last few years and that is in no small part to due to Klopp, the staff and good governance. A little patience wouldn’t go amiss. A relatively slow start to the season….I can take that, nobody ever wins all the games. That’s what I love about football.
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It's lone voice as well not loan voice just so you're aware.Originally posted by maxtor View PostProbably why I don’t post much, as you can’t have a sensible debate on this site without a wisecrackKlopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."

Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.
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I agree with you for what it's worthOriginally posted by maxtor View PostI might be a loan voice here, but I like FSG. Apart from the super league fiasco and ticket price hikes, which they listened to, They run the club within its means and have steadily built up the infrastructure and the commercial streams. If you remove the financial doping clubs out of the equation, then we are in the top two or three clubs in European football. Don’t get me wrong, as fans we always want more, that extra couple of players…..there’s always someone in any squad who you want replacing, no matter how good you are. I think people are quick to forget where we were before FSG came along. I for one have enjoyed seeing us battling for trophies over the last few years and that is in no small part to due to Klopp, the staff and good governance. A little patience wouldn’t go amiss. A relatively slow start to the season….I can take that, nobody ever wins all the games. That’s what I love about football.
We just need to shift a few players wages to get fresh blood in (Ox will be on a decent wedge, Keita needs binning if he doesn't sign a contract etc)Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge
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I agreeOriginally posted by maxtor View PostI might be a loan voice here, but I like FSG. Apart from the super league fiasco and ticket price hikes, which they listened to, They run the club within its means and have steadily built up the infrastructure and the commercial streams. If you remove the financial doping clubs out of the equation, then we are in the top two or three clubs in European football. Don’t get me wrong, as fans we always want more, that extra couple of players…..there’s always someone in any squad who you want replacing, no matter how good you are. I think people are quick to forget where we were before FSG came along. I for one have enjoyed seeing us battling for trophies over the last few years and that is in no small part to due to Klopp, the staff and good governance. A little patience wouldn’t go amiss. A relatively slow start to the season….I can take that, nobody ever wins all the games. That’s what I love about football.
It is frustrating seeing gapes (particularly midfield) in the squad but it has to be said we have had rotten luck with injuries. Which brings me round to the most mind-boggling fact of this all...
I would say Liverpool FC are the good guys here. We don't spend outside our remit, the club is well run and profitable and it's how football should be if the league wants to stay competitive. It's just incredibly ironic that the club that's trying to do things the right way can't seem to catch a break at the moment. Most of it seems bad luck but some of it is self-inflicted (no club doctor, not registering Keita/Ox for CL, not signing midfielder...). Pretty sure this will become a hot topic soon (profitability vs spending) once the club releases its accounts.
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They have done great but I think we are approaching the point where they can’t afford to complete with the country backed clubs.Originally posted by maxtor View PostI might be a loan voice here, but I like FSG. Apart from the super league fiasco and ticket price hikes, which they listened to, They run the club within its means and have steadily built up the infrastructure and the commercial streams. If you remove the financial doping clubs out of the equation, then we are in the top two or three clubs in European football. Don’t get me wrong, as fans we always want more, that extra couple of players…..there’s always someone in any squad who you want replacing, no matter how good you are. I think people are quick to forget where we were before FSG came along. I for one have enjoyed seeing us battling for trophies over the last few years and that is in no small part to due to Klopp, the staff and good governance. A little patience wouldn’t go amiss. A relatively slow start to the season….I can take that, nobody ever wins all the games. That’s what I love about football.
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Reminder that we nearly won 4 trophies last seasonOriginally posted by Irishnev View PostThey have done great but I think we are approaching the point where they can’t afford to complete with the country backed clubs.
We can imo compete with them when our squad is fit. Or 80% of it at least. When 50% of it is out we're struggling funnily enoughSack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge
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We can't imo, we clearly have scraped every iota out of the players we have, within the budget we have. It has been an incredible over achievement but it is not a level playing field and competing for the biggest trophies year after year whilst selling to buy most seasons is a short term thing imo. Eventually money will win out, it always does.
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I know we did and it’s equally baffling and terrifying how we’ve dropped so far off a cliff. Injuries have been a huge issue but we have sleep walked into a midfield **** show on their watch - maybe they have offered Klopp bag loads of money for players and he said no or maybe they are tight arses….. I don’t knowOriginally posted by wiw View PostReminder that we nearly won 4 trophies last season
We can imo compete with them when our squad is fit. Or 80% of it at least. When 50% of it is out we're struggling funnily enough
I applaud our model but for it work we need to be elite in the market - we were for a few years but recent windows have seen us scrambling last minute on stop gap loans which in hindsight have been shocking decisions. In addition we have no salable assets to give us the cash injections we need such as Phil funding Ali and VVD
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