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  • fabinho
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    Originally posted by poorscousertommy View Post
    No, it’s more indicative of the world we live in where keyboard warriors feel safe to be abusive to people from any walk of life and feel safe to do so, knowing they will not be on the receiving end of any consequential action.
    You don't think this happened before the Internet?

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  • Paul12
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    Originally posted by poorscousertommy View Post
    No, it’s more indicative of the world we live in where keyboard warriors feel safe to be abusive to people from any walk of life and feel safe to do so, knowing they will not be on the receiving end of any consequential action.


    Some of the stuff that is posted on this website after the team has lost is appalling - and that seems to be true of all other fan sites. The things that are posted when we go behind in a game can also be way way over the top. It is too easy to say "it was in the heat of the moment", or "it doesn't matter because the players don't read websites like this" or "it is just banter".

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  • Doc_Piptorious
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    Originally posted by RedReet View Post
    He was our lowest earning midfielder. Henderson, Fabinho, Thiago, Ox, Keita, Milner all on more than him. Most new signings get major pay rises after 1st o r2nd season when here, he didn't. Doesn't matter if he's on £500k per week if everyone else is on £800k, it all relative. So yes, statistically undervalued financially by the club.

    For years Gini got abused for being invisible and not influencing games. This quietened a bit during our successful seasons, but as he alludes to himself, after every bad team performance he was one of the first in line for abuse. I'm not gonna start digging out quotes, but there are countless examples.


    Actual abuse or just criticism when he played badly? He put in a number of sub par (by his own standards) performances this season and a lot of the time those bad performances came when he was one of the senior players in the team that we would be hoping to guide the less senior players.


    I see nothing wrong with discussing and criticising a player's performances on a fan forum tbh, same way there is nothing wrong with praising a good performance.

    If it slips into personal abuse about a player though that is a different story altogether and totally out line.



    On a related note I look forward to Charly sending Philips screenshots of me calling him a bum a la Mickey from Rocky and Philips then going public to say I am the reason he left the club.

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  • RedReet
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    Originally posted by fabinho View Post
    I honestly have no idea what you're on about?

    Does Gini not start in everyones 11 if fit?
    He was on just under 5m a year here too?
    He was our lowest earning midfielder. Henderson, Fabinho, Thiago, Ox, Keita, Milner all on more than him. Most new signings get major pay rises after 1st o r2nd season when here, he didn't. Doesn't matter if he's on £500k per week if everyone else is on £800k, it all relative. So yes, statistically undervalued financially by the club.

    For years Gini got abused for being invisible and not influencing games. This quietened a bit during our successful seasons, but as he alludes to himself, after every bad team performance he was one of the first in line for abuse. I'm not gonna start digging out quotes, but there are countless examples.

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  • poorscousertommy
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    Originally posted by fabinho View Post
    It's a reflection of the society we live in today where people seem to think we can live in a Utopia where nobody ever says anything nasty or hurtful. Good luck finding that Gini, don't hold your breath though.
    No, it’s more indicative of the world we live in where keyboard warriors feel safe to be abusive to people from any walk of life and feel safe to do so, knowing they will not be on the receiving end of any consequential action.
    Last edited by poorscousertommy; 25-07-21, 10:49 AM.

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  • poorscousertommy
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    Originally posted by Fuzzy View Post
    lol what a little bitch
    I mean if you bothered to read the story you’d know the headline is ****e

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  • fabinho
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    Originally posted by RedReet View Post
    Yeah right.

    Talk about rose tinted spectacles.
    I honestly have no idea what you're on about?

    Does Gini not start in everyones 11 if fit?
    He was on just under 5m a year here too?

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  • Rafa Justice
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    Originally posted by Harv View Post
    Easy thing to do as a player is to just not use social media.
    Yes, but that will cost them money and free **** because they won't advertise things.

    These reasons are utter bollocks anyway. He wanted a big pay day and took it, end off. The social media abuse is universal in football, everyone gets hammered.

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  • RedReet
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    Yeah right.

    Talk about rose tinted spectacles.

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  • fabinho
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    Originally posted by RedReet View Post
    He was undervalued financially by the club and undervalued in the most by a large section of the fanbase, so why should he stay? I don't think he's upset that one or two people said he had a bad game.
    I disagree with most of that. He was a great player for us and one of the first names on the team sheet for 99% of the fanbaze I think.

    Paid handsomely by the club too.

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  • RedReet
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    Originally posted by fabinho View Post
    It's a reflection of the society we live in today where people seem to think we can live in a Utopia where nobody ever says anything nasty or hurtful. Good luck finding that Gini, don't hold your breath though.
    He was undervalued financially by the club and undervalued in the most by a large section of the fanbase, so why should he stay? I don't think he's upset that one or two people said he had a bad game.

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  • RedReet
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    Fair play to him, more footballers should call 'fans' out on their ****.

    I used to hate hearing on here people justifying their crap by say 'as if he's going to be on Est and care what I say', but hate festers and grows and doesn't take long before there is a bandwagon. Actions have consequences.

    I was totally sickened with the treatment a 17 Sterling got at Anfield in a game he played well and there is no way dickheads in the stadium would have behaved like that without the support of an Internet campaign. Of course when he left it was also about the money and the self righteous fans did no wrong.

    And it's almost funny that some of the people outraged by his comments (not on here, but hardly a ringing endorsement either) , then go on to prove his exact point with their response.

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  • fabinho
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    It's a reflection of the society we live in today where people seem to think we can live in a Utopia where nobody ever says anything nasty or hurtful. Good luck finding that Gini, don't hold your breath though.

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  • BG1973
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    Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
    The tweet is bollocks. He talks about the rubbish he got on social media, clearly it affected him, but he doesn’t say it was the ‘main reason’ at all.
    Would you mind posting it please? Couldn't access it and would like to actually read it properly before jumping on the bandwagon.

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  • Saveloy
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    Last edited by Saveloy; 25-07-21, 07:58 AM.

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