Georginio Wijnaldum

[Fosterbloke]

I agree with the Melissa Reddy article. Humour and irony do not work very well on the internet so the second comment quoted here appears, at first glance, to show the first is untrue. (I am sure it wasn't intended to be a serios comment, so apologies for using it as an example here.) I know we mean most of the outrageous comments we make to be humourous but in this day and age we need to be careful. And I know football is an emotional game but excusing genuinely OTT comments on those grounds is just not right; no one would accept that excuse from me if, during an emotional moment in a game, I did violence to a relative of yours so we all know there are limits...the debate is over where those limits should be.

I'm absolutely serious..













When I say he was a terrific player and gave 100% to the shirt.

He's a legend in my eyes and I hope he does well at PSG, bar winning big ears at our expense

[Rigadon]

It's disappointing that Gini felt undervalued at Liverpool. Of all our midfielders, Gini and Fabinho received the least amount of criticism.

Great memories during a very successful period at Liverpool. I wish him nothing but the best at PSG.

[Buzzo]

No crowds has also meant he hasn't received that instant gratification in stadiums for the past 18 months.

I'm amazed that footballers read the comments on Social Media tbh, totally reductive. I guess that is part of the problem, it is pandoras box with unverified and anonymous posts free to sat pretty much everything. It does seem as though he really wanted to stay.

Gini should have logged in here over the last few years almost universal praise, and from the absolute beginning from the likes of myself

If you are logged on to Est Gini - thanks for the memories!!!

[Mark79]

I’m not sure about that. I’d say the people supporting him have been going down the social media abuse line to try and defend him against accusations of being greedy. If her point is simply that social media abuse is bad, then yeah, accepted, but like it or not, that is the real world now, and not just for celebrities. But criticism of a player for leaving for more money or ‘love’ is as old as the professional game, and avoidable abuse online doesn’t seem as bad as booing when returning to an old club, the more traditional method, but that’s individual I guess.

So let’s go with her conclusion, he left because of money and a fragile ego.

Boo

Not at all. No doubt he left for more money, and he was completely entitled to, for reasons explained in the article. The defence has been against the sheer nonsense that he’s supposed to have claimed the he left because of the online abuse or criticism. Again, this is spelt out in the article.

And that’s simply not her conclusion at all. Her conclusion is that he left to earn the wages he deserved and because he knows he own value. So let’s go with that.

Yay.

[Kenneth]

Thank god for some sense.

https://twitter.com/melissareddy_/st...92751029624837

I’m not sure about that. I’d say the people supporting him have been going down the social media abuse line to try and defend him against accusations of being greedy. If her point is simply that social media abuse is bad, then yeah, accepted, but like it or not, that is the real world now, and not just for celebrities. But criticism of a player for leaving for more money or ‘love’ is as old as the professional game, and avoidable abuse online doesn’t seem as bad as booing when returning to an old club, the more traditional method, but that’s individual I guess.

So let’s go with her conclusion, he left because of money and a fragile ego.

Boo

[RedReet]

Thank god for some sense.

https://twitter.com/melissareddy_/st...92751029624837

Pearce wrote a decent piece too. Was going to share it, but it is obvious from a lot of the comments that a lot of people didn't read the original article, just read the headline and went straight for the pitchfork.

I do find it baffling though. He's always come across as honest, humble, always smiling, genuine good person. He shares some of his feelings on a subject none of us know any of the details, yet so many are quick to condemn him and call him a liar.

[Paul12]

The most bizarre thing is that those comments could've been made by WUMs and trolls and most likely not Liverpool fans

Just call him a vole cunt and shut the thread.

I agree with the Melissa Reddy article. Humour and irony do not work very well on the internet so the second comment quoted here appears, at first glance, to show the first is untrue. (I am sure it wasn't intended to be a serios comment, so apologies for using it as an example here.) I know we mean most of the outrageous comments we make to be humourous but in this day and age we need to be careful. And I know football is an emotional game but excusing genuinely OTT comments on those grounds is just not right; no one would accept that excuse from me if, during an emotional moment in a game, I did violence to a relative of yours so we all know there are limits...the debate is over where those limits should be.

[Mark79]

Thank god for some sense.

[ame]https://twitter.com/melissareddy_/status/1419592751029624837[/ame]

[Mark79]

He might actually be sincere.

Coupled with his opinion club not appearing to value him either, may have really got to him.

Doesnt make it seem any less childish from here.. but when already a bit of resentment, easy to be oversensitive.

No fans in Anfield won’t have helped either. He talks about how the fans in the stadium were great and always supportive. But no fans in stadiums for over a year, so the the only fan response he was getting was the online ****.

Also, needs to be repeated, he doesn’t actually try to make out it’s the reason he left.

[Mark79]

The most bizarre thing is that those comments could've been made by WUMs and trolls and most likely not Liverpool fans

Come off it!

Just look at the comments on here for a start!

[BG1973]

I loved Gini, but this little ruse to try hoodwink fans into believing the reason he left was because he got "abused" by a few idiots on social media and nothing to do with PSG giving him a big fat final pay day is really tarnishing his legacy with us.

He might actually be sincere.

Coupled with his opinion club not appearing to value him either, may have really got to him.

Doesnt make it seem any less childish from here.. but when already a bit of resentment, easy to be oversensitive.

[Exiled_red]

I genuinely thought that footballers would have coaching on how to avoid reading the cesspit that is twitter.

You would certainly hope so, I imagine that they must at least do it with the academy players even if they don't with first team.

I've mentioned this before but I don't really understand why footballers (or a number of other public figures) have publicly accessible social media accounts. It seems inevitable that when there is a negative story about you, you have a bad performance, miss a penalty or whatever the low life's are going to @ you in any abusive response. OK without the account people will still comment on the stories but you would at least then have to go looking for them rather than just logging into you account and them being there. I genuinely don't see what the up side of it is.

[Pablo]

Imagine if playing football in front of millions was added to tue deal?

Worra moaning cunt he's turned out to be. ****ing hinted at it for a season too. Can you imagine the negotiations

'We'd like you to sign a deal to stay, Gini'

'Oh, I don't know if I can handle the pain for another season'

'Eh, what's happened Gini?'

'Scott from Halesowen called me a cunt after the WBA game'

'What section was he in, Gini'

'It wasn't face to face, oh and Carl from Hounslow said I ghosted through games too'

'We'll deal with it, Gini, but you need to point them out to us'

'It was on the Have Your Say section of the BBC website and on Twitter. I'm so upset that I've had to block Scott'

The most bizarre thing is that those comments could've been made by WUMs and trolls and most likely not Liverpool fans

Definitely. I'm sure EVERY single player gets some kind of abuse on Twitter, as you say often its turds pretending to be supporters of other clubs.

Also if he left to feel loved then moving to PSG was a **** choice. Compared to us he will feel far less love and support.

I'm sorry but he clearly left largely for the money (so long as it was money from a club good enough to challenge for trophies, which PSG are).

[danperkins]

Imagine if playing football in front of millions was added to tue deal?

Worra moaning cunt he's turned out to be. ****ing hinted at it for a season too. Can you imagine the negotiations

'We'd like you to sign a deal to stay, Gini'

'Oh, I don't know if I can handle the pain for another season'

'Eh, what's happened Gini?'

'Scott from Halesowen called me a cunt after the WBA game'

'What section was he in, Gini'

'It wasn't face to face, oh and Carl from Hounslow said I ghosted through games too'

'We'll deal with it, Gini, but you need to point them out to us'

'It was on the Have Your Say section of the BBC website and on Twitter. I'm so upset that I've had to block Scott'

[Harv]

I loved Gini, but this little ruse to try hoodwink fans into believing the reason he left was because he got "abused" by a few idiots on social media and nothing to do with PSG giving him a big fat final pay day is really tarnishing his legacy with us.