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  • Nicey
    Paisley
    • Nov 2006
    • 21028

    #1636
    for ****s sake, his ****ing loss ...time to buy another player in his position
    Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
    #****CITY

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    • baitman
      Dad's Cabs
      • Sep 2011
      • 27745

      #1637
      Originally posted by Nicey
      for ****s sake, his ****ing loss ...time to buy another player in his position
      Get fit then sell, ior it'll be rinse and repeat
      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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      • danperkins
        Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
        • May 2010
        • 50419

        #1638
        Jesus christ, it seems like the fella is permanently injured. 6th injury this season and seems like he's hardly played.
        Last edited by danperkins; 28-06-19, 03:15 PM. Reason: y

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        • labourRed
          Paisley
          • Jun 2015
          • 13456

          #1639
          Originally posted by danperkins
          Jesus christ, it seems like the fella is permanently injured. 6th injury this season and seems like he's hardly played.
          Are we overreacting, hasn't he just got lumps and bruises. If that's the case, it's a blessing.

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          • danperkins
            Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
            • May 2010
            • 50419

            #1640
            Originally posted by labourRed
            Are we overreacting, hasn't he just got lumps and bruises. If that's the case, it's a blessing.
            Everyone gets injured and gets impact injuries. Naby has been unlucky this season with both which have really disrupted his first season with us.

            I think people are just annoyed as he shouldn't have been anywhere near that tournament.

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            • BigChief
              Paisley
              • Sep 2007
              • 13826

              #1641
              No surprise to me he's injured. Shame as I like the guy. Just as I like Ox, but we all know what we're expecting next, right?

              Definitely need one more creative player.
              One tit for another.

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              • danperkins
                Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                • May 2010
                • 50419

                #1642
                Ox, Lallana & it seems Keita do seem to be susceptible to getting injured several times during each season. I think we have been very lucky with the 3 front lads on the injury front, that luck will eventually run out and we will have to depend on others.

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                • Mark79
                  Paisley
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 11006

                  #1643
                  Originally posted by BigChief
                  No surprise to me he's injured. Shame as I like the guy. Just as I like Ox, but we all know what we're expecting next, right?

                  Definitely need one more creative player.
                  It’s no surprise to anyone he’s injured, since he was already injured before Guinea decided to play him in AFCON anyway.
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                  • S-RED
                    Shankly
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6929

                    #1644
                    better he now has to rest & recover under LFC control, rather than obligated to play for his country for a further few games/weeks

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                    • Fosterbloke
                      Run the Jewels
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 39095

                      #1645
                      There should be a clause that a country's FA are liable for damages if a player assessed to be injured by their club is played against club's advice.

                      This could lend itself to clubs purposely withholding players but these tin pot international teams need to stop risking their player's health and our chances of success.
                      Was mu

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                      • Saveloy
                        Expect the Wurst
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5781

                        #1646
                        Originally posted by baitman
                        Get fit then sell, ior it'll be rinse and repeat
                        No







                        No






                        No

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                        • Exiled_red
                          Paisley
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 55304

                          #1647
                          Originally posted by foresterbloke
                          There should be a clause that a country's FA are liable for damages if a player assessed to be injured by their club is played against club's advice.

                          This could lend itself to clubs purposely withholding players but these tin pot international teams need to stop risking their player's health and our chances of success.
                          I remember reading articles about this years ago, the problem with doing it was that small countries who had world class players might not be able to afford to pay their clubs back if they were injured on international duty, I think the example at the time was George Weah and Liberia which tells you how long ago it was.

                          For me the problem comes from international sides not giving a **** about anyone but themselves, as long as they can get the few games out of the player that they need they don't care if the player misses games for his club. I guess to be fair the club feel the same about international games, the difference is that the club are paying the player's wages and are managing the player's fitness long term. There is a clear conflict of interest and there should be some appropriate process to manage these conflicts, I think that we all could see this coming which makes it all the more frustrating, but the club couldn't do anything about it.
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          • BobTheCharmer
                            Pantomime Villain
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 19183

                            #1648
                            Originally posted by Exiled_red
                            I remember reading articles about this years ago, the problem with doing it was that small countries who had world class players might not be able to afford to pay their clubs back if they were injured on international duty, I think the example at the time was George Weah and Liberia which tells you how long ago it was.

                            For me the problem comes from international sides not giving a **** about anyone but themselves, as long as they can get the few games out of the player that they need they don't care if the player misses games for his club. I guess to be fair the club feel the same about international games, the difference is that the club are paying the player's wages and are managing the player's fitness long term. There is a clear conflict of interest and there should be some appropriate process to manage these conflicts, I think that we all could see this coming which makes it all the more frustrating, but the club couldn't do anything about it.
                            I think in this case it's fair to say the management team of Guinea isn't qualified enough to either understand or make a true judgement of when they should or shouldn't play their best player. I might be making a sweeping assessment here but I would say their setup is conference level at best. No way these small countries in developing world's have the resources we are so used such as sports science. I'm sure a few still believe in witchcraft. That's the reality and the risk of buying these players. We have no right to deny them a player. It's frustrating but we could of signed someone less risk. I'm sure Naby will be fine.
                            Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won

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                            • Exiled_red
                              Paisley
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 55304

                              #1649
                              Originally posted by BobTheCharmer
                              I think in this case it's fair to say the management team of Guinea isn't qualified enough to either understand or make a true judgement of when they should or shouldn't play their best player. I might be making a sweeping assessment here but I would say their setup is conference level at best. No way these small countries in developing world's have the resources we are so used such as sports science. I'm sure a few still believe in witchcraft. That's the reality and the risk of buying these players. We have no right to deny them a player. It's frustrating but we could of signed someone less risk. I'm sure Naby will be fine.
                              I don't doubt that they don't have the same level of medical skills that we have, but isn't that all the more reason to listen to our medical staff? Under the rules we have no right to deny them a player, but I think that is also a problem, they should have a responsibility to the players welfare, their decision to ignore medical advice resulted in his injury.
                              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              • danperkins
                                Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                                • May 2010
                                • 50419

                                #1650
                                In matters like this there should be an independent medical panel to step in. Clubs are looking after their own long term assets & the countries just want the players to play, problem has been going on for a long time now. I think sometimes the players feel obligated to play. I'm i'm ok to play kinda thing, nationalistic pride takes over, playing for their country is a great honour etc when really and truly they are still in the danger zone with the recovery.
                                Last edited by danperkins; 30-06-19, 07:45 AM.

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