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  • fabinho
    Fagan
    • Jun 2018
    • 1557

    #1786
    Originally posted by Phoenix07
    .

    Saying this, I do wonder if someone like Bayern made a bid for Keita of let's say £50million, if we'd accept it?
    I think there's about as much chance of someone offering £50M for Keita at the moment as there is of him reciting one of Shakespear's Sonnets.
    Glass half empty club

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    • SB
      3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
      • Mar 2007
      • 36148

      #1787
      Originally posted by fabinho
      I think there's about as much chance of someone offering £50M for Keita at the moment as there is of him reciting one of Shakespear's Sonnets in scouse .
      Fixed it for you
      Me, I

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      • fabinho
        Fagan
        • Jun 2018
        • 1557

        #1788
        Originally posted by SB
        Fixed it for you
        That would possibly be the greatest LFC related video yet
        Glass half empty club

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        • ronanm
          Shankly
          • Aug 2006
          • 5652

          #1789
          Originally posted by Buzzo
          Some people are just **** at learning a second language.

          I should know. I was one of them.
          What's your first language?
          Substance > Style

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          • Buzzo
            Donald Buzzworth
            • Jun 2010
            • 67435

            #1790
            Originally posted by ronanm
            What's your first language?
            Yet to be defined
            Modifying post.

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            • Exiled_red
              Paisley
              • Nov 2007
              • 55297

              #1791
              Originally posted by fabinho
              I think there's about as much chance of someone offering £50M for Keita at the moment as there is of him reciting one of Shakespear's Sonnets.
              Man Utd paid more than that for Fred and Naby is much better than him, which come to think of it isn't saying much.
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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              • Nicey
                Paisley
                • Nov 2006
                • 21028

                #1792
                Originally posted by Norbs
                Come on Nicey, that's a cheap shot, fella. Footballers have the means and time to take intensive courses, it requires them to have the inclination too though.
                Listen Norbs, as someone who has spent the majority of his life living abroad in quite possibly one of the most multicultural environments on the planet, I can tell you learning additional languages are hard and it's not for everyone.

                I would say it the responsibility of the club to make sure he gets up to speed, but for some people, it takes a very long time and personally I am not going to judge him on his lack of English.

                English is one of those languages jammed packed full of arrogance, everybody expects people to speak it, and if they cant they treat them like they are stupid when in fact the majority of the world speaks at least two languages except England which I believe has the worst statistics in the world, especially white people. So Naby has been in the UK little over a year and only is coming to grips with English ... how long do you think it would take you to learn German if you moved there tomorrow.

                Main thing is he is speaking English now, so all good
                Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                #****CITY

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                • Sus
                  Dalglish
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3637

                  #1793
                  Originally posted by Nicey
                  How many languages do you speak fluently?
                  3 - coming from a minority background I probably understand the challenges of learning new languages better than you

                  All I was saying is that all he does is train, he has plenty of time to learn, regardless of how difficult he finds it. Should be easier for him than anyone who works full time, for example
                  Last edited by Sus; 02-10-19, 04:08 AM.

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                  • frank the tank
                    Paisley
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 12892

                    #1794
                    Originally posted by Sus
                    3 - coming from a minority background I probably understand the challenges of learning new languages better than you

                    All I was saying is that all he does is train, he has plenty of time to learn, regardless of how difficult he finds it. Should be easier for him than anyone who works full time, for example


                    ****in joke alright. 2 years and still can't speak.

                    And the comparisons with tevez and others means **** all. It is better to be able to speak and understand the language of your place of work. End of.

                    Lazy on nabys part. He could have a brilliant season but we still won't know how good it could have been.

                    Plus if he is detracting from sadios game - because the fella has to talk to naby throughout the game, well that is just ****e

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                    • Exiled_red
                      Paisley
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 55297

                      #1795
                      Klopp saying now that he has made progress with the language.

                      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                      • Assassin
                        Kloppite
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 25908

                        #1796
                        Originally posted by frank the tank


                        ****in joke alright. 2 years and still can't speak.

                        And the comparisons with tevez and others means **** all. It is better to be able to speak and understand the language of your place of work. End of.

                        Lazy on nabys part. He could have a brilliant season but we still won't know how good it could have been.

                        Plus if he is detracting from sadios game - because the fella has to talk to naby throughout the game, well that is just ****e
                        Easy to point fingers....but as seen the 30% is now innacurate.

                        Have you lived in a foriegn country? Depending on the person it can take time to adjust to the cultures and the language. A lot of it is self confidence and not wanting to make a fool of yourself when trying to speak in another tongue. It can take time for everything to fall into place, especially in a place like Liverpool and the dialect in the immediate area. For example my former missus came to a few games with me. She can speak english like the queen. In Liverpool she was totally lost, especially in shop when she had to pay for things. She would just hold out a handfull of money and let the cashier take the amount needed

                        I have travelled the world working and moved away from the UK 20+ years ago. I have no issues with confidence or making a fool of myself with languages. I speak several fluently and many others not so fluent. At the other end of the scale, I have a couple of mates who struggle with confidence and making themselves look foolish, both of them have been living in countries with other tongues and neither of them can speak even the basic words and sentences

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                        • Fredo
                          Not to be taken seriously
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 35173

                          #1797
                          Totally agree with Nicey on that one. Also, you have to take into consideration the player's personality, whether he is shy or not. This does have an effect. Learning a new language is hard, unless you have learnt it since childhood. Naby already speaks at least 2 or more languages fluently. French being the official language in Guinea plus possibly other local languages or dialects. Then he has lived in Germany for a few years, so I expect him to at least navigate German as well.

                          How many people have lived abroad for a long period in here (your days in Benidorm does not count)?
                          Are we winning?

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                          • Angryred
                            Shankly
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 5063

                            #1798
                            How the **** do you expect him to learn English when he hears Scouse when out & about in Liverpool?!!!

                            Mind the bezzies, la!

                            Gegging in the bevvies, soft lad?

                            Ya wha? ah boss that!

                            Are those trabs jarg?

                            e's a gob****e!

                            He's a divvy

                            Fancy some scran, lad?

                            Ah, it's baltic out there!
                            Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                            • Scratch
                              If you fail once....
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 7887

                              #1799
                              First 18 years of my life were spent abroad, in either Arabic or Malay speaking countries (plus 2 years in PNG, where English was widely spoken). I took lessons in both Arabic and Malay, but for the life of me I could not pick up the languages. Whether it was laziness or just ineptitude, I don't know, but the only words I ever learnt were swear words, as you do.

                              However, Tok Pisin, the national language of PNG, was a barrel of laughs and I knew many phrases in that, probably cos it is so close to English aurally.

                              But yeah, some people just don't have a natural affinity with languages, and I was one of them. Me mother, on the other hand, was pretty much fluent in both, which isn't bad for a lass from Lancashire she reckons.

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                              • frank the tank
                                Paisley
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 12892

                                #1800
                                Originally posted by Assassin
                                Easy to point fingers....but as seen the 30% is now innacurate.

                                Have you lived in a foriegn country? Depending on the person it can take time to adjust to the cultures and the language. A lot of it is self confidence and not wanting to make a fool of yourself when trying to speak in another tongue. It can take time for everything to fall into place, especially in a place like Liverpool and the dialect in the immediate area. For example my former missus came to a few games with me. She can speak english like the queen. In Liverpool she was totally lost, especially in shop when she had to pay for things. She would just hold out a handfull of money and let the cashier take the amount needed

                                I have travelled the world working and moved away from the UK 20+ years ago. I have no issues with confidence or making a fool of myself with languages. I speak several fluently and many others not so fluent. At the other end of the scale, I have a couple of mates who struggle with confidence and making themselves look foolish, both of them have been living in countries with other tongues and neither of them can speak even the basic words and sentences
                                Yes I have lived in a foreign country. I lived in Spain for 13 months building a factory. I worked for a Danish engineering company, building a factory for an American company with a Spanish workforce. The project language was English.

                                In reality, it takes 5 minutes to learn "I'm sorry but my English isn't the best" and as long as he adds that to every conversation with a new person, then i'm sure he will be fine.

                                I actually think it is a miss on the clubs part not tracking this for the last year he was at Leipzig.......and intervening when he wasn't making progress

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