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Do you speak fluent Spanish?Originally posted by frank the tank View PostYes I have lived in a foreign country. I lived in Spain for 13 months building a factory. I worked for a Danish engineering company, building a factory for an American company with a Spanish workforce. The project language was English.
In reality, it takes 5 minutes to learn "I'm sorry but my English isn't the best" and as long as he adds that to every conversation with a new person, then i'm sure he will be fine.
I actually think it is a miss on the clubs part not tracking this for the last year he was at Leipzig.......and intervening when he wasn't making progressAre we winning?
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oh I dont know I am an Irish man in China as minorities go that's pretty big. Joking aside, I live with on average 150 different nationalities all of which English is not their first language. They all have to learn it, and to be fair they all do, but to vastly varying degrees and none of them is extremely highly paid footballers with a lot of time on their hands.Originally posted by Sus View Post3 - coming from a minority background I probably understand the challenges of learning new languages better than you
All I was saying is that all he does is train, he has plenty of time to learn, regardless of how difficult he finds it. Should be easier for him than anyone who works full time, for example
All I am saying is, learning English is not as easy as people think ... its not just learn it, you, for example, are a minority, who lives in a country were only one language is spoken, namely English for a reasonably long time I am guessing, you already have a language advantage because you will have family around you who have gone through the process, there are multiple languages being spoken in your house and your brain is just optimized for language acquisition. Naby on the other hand is probably living in a flat in Liverpool on his own, sure he has a private tutor, but it is not the same as living with people you know who are helping you.
Anybody who gives a footballer a hard time for not being able to speak Engish and has never learned another language themselves fluently can Gabh transna ort fhéin
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Ok would you be willing to put that to the test, I can arrange for someone to interview you about liverpool fc in Spanish and we can post it hereOriginally posted by frank the tank View PostNot completely fluent but.i could do an interview
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Anyone can learn a second language, some are quicker than others but it's also requires hard work and dedication. You can go from 0 to fluent in 6 months if you want it enough and are disciplined about not using your mother tongue so much.
Everyone who lives in a given country should learn one of the languages spoken widely in that land as it practically helps them and also shows a level of respect.Y.N.W.A!!!!!!
"There are two great teams on Merseyside; Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves." - Bill Shankly
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"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
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He should have the basic vocab and sentence structure down. 95% of language is the same 10-12 sentences with different nouns/verbs slotted. How many nouns are needed? Ball, Man, Box, Head, Space, Line, Goal etc Verbs..Cross, Pass, Shoot, Tackle, Foul, Get etc there's not a huge vocabulary required.
Then add verbs and nouns as required. He doesn't have to be Oscar Wilde, but needs to know enough to understand instructions and what the team is doing, to understand calls on the pitch and get involved in some of the dressing room 'bants'. The club should have a programme and an English only rule while on site. Going through that little 'pain barrier' of forcing yourself to look up/ask for words rather than take an easy route pays dividends very fast.
I learnt 10x more Portuguese in 6 months in Brazil than the French I learnt over 5 years of GCSE's for 2hrs per week and a year with a French house mate at Uni. Because I had to get through each incident in Portuguese, nobody spoke English so there was no Kop out."that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011
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There are all the manager dependent words and phrases too...Originally posted by BillobShaisley View PostHe should have the basic vocab and sentence structure down. 95% of language is the same 10-12 sentences with different nouns/verbs slotted. How many nouns are needed? Ball, Man, Box, Head, Space, Line, Goal etc Verbs..Cross, Pass, Shoot, Tackle, Foul, Get etc there's not a huge vocabulary required.
Then add verbs and nouns as required. He doesn't have to be Oscar Wilde, but needs to know enough to understand instructions and what the team is doing, to understand calls on the pitch and get involved in some of the dressing room 'bants'. The club should have a programme and an English only rule while on site. Going through that little 'pain barrier' of forcing yourself to look up/ask for words rather than take an easy route pays dividends very fast.
I learnt 10x more Portuguese in 6 months in Brazil than the French I learnt over 5 years of GCSE's for 2hrs per week and a year with a French house mate at Uni. Because I had to get through each incident in Portuguese, nobody spoke English so there was no Kop out.
Rafa: Possibilities, esquad, kwalitee, "using espace between day lines"
Brendan: Proud, wonderful group, special boy, "fight for your life"
Bodge: vewy, expewienced, smintLike blood on iron
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Wah'ammer!Originally posted by Red_Polo View PostThere are all the manager dependent words and phrases too...
Rafa: Possibilities, esquad, kwalitee, "using espace between day lines"
Brendan: Proud, wonderful group, special boy, "fight for your life"
Bodge: vewy, expewienced, smintWas muß, das muß.
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This is actually pretty funny how they have these characteristics, Dalglish used the phrase "in any way, shape or form" a lot, while Klopp obviously says "Cool" a lotOriginally posted by Red_Polo View PostThere are all the manager dependent words and phrases too...
Rafa: Possibilities, esquad, kwalitee, "using espace between day lines"
Brendan: Proud, wonderful group, special boy, "fight for your life"
Bodge: vewy, expewienced, smint
* The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
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Yep, & he has us fans saying "Booom" a lot!Originally posted by The_weatherman View PostThis is actually pretty funny how they have these characteristics, Dalglish used the phrase "in any way, shape or form" a lot, while Klopp obviously says "Cool" a lot
Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!
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So I spoke to a friend who is currently doing a Masters in Linguistics focusing on specifically language acquisition. I asked her about this issue. She basically said in kids with no distractions, it takes 2 years to get the basics down, anything technical can take up to 7 years. Lay off the ****ing guy, yes there will be people who pick up languages quicker and a lot of them seem to be Est users but by the book, its usually 2 years for basic grasp ... which were he is now and up to 5 plus years for fluency. Any of you giving him **** only speak English to a rudimentary level should shut the **** right up. ; ) HugsAnybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
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