Alex Oxlade Chamberlain aka "The Ox"

[BG1973]

Sentiment isn’t a thing for me - all I said is that he was superb pre injury and he could’ve been a mainstay in the side. Post injury as soon as he was “fit” I’d have sold him and Naby for that matter, and Milner two years ago, and Origi post CL win, and no extension for Henderson, and Phillips, and Mane a year earlier, and Robbo this summer

Klopp is the too sentimental one here - footballers are assets, they need to be moved on when their best days are behind them

Sure and i bet it's just a simple as that.

[Irishnev]

Sure and i bet it's just a simple as that.

It was for other successful Liverpool managers and for Fergie - anyway, it doesn’t matter now

[Rafa Justice]

Not quite. If we terminated the contract without their agreement we would have to compensate them so they didn’t lose out financially, so if they signed for another club on lower wages, we’d be responsible for the differential between their contract with us and their new one. If they retired or didn’t find a new contract elsewhere during our contract period, we’d have to pay them fully. And all of that only applies if there is no lump sum compensation amount specified in the players contract, which FIFA encourages, and only the club and player will know what that is. (FIFA code article 17 covers it).

There needs to be a coward biscuits for legs cunt clause.

[danperkins]

I know what you mean but at the same time im not sure anyone would have bought him either.

That's a valid point

[Exiled_red]

Situation with Ox for me was always an odd one, I think the fee was too high at the time for someone in his contract situation and with his injury record he was too much of a risk.

I'd be interested to know how the club weigh up these kind of transfers, because it always seemed to me that he was injury prone at Arsenal, was the club's view that he had just been unlucky with injuries and that they thought they could get him over that? Or was the thinking that if he plays to his potential he's a £70m player but taking into account his injury record if he can play 50% of games he's worth £35m or what?

If he had played like he did before his Roma injury for most of his time here he would have been a good signing, unfortunately he didn't.

I work on the principle that players who have poor injury records are always going to be injury prone, you either say that they are good enough players that you accept that when you sign them or you don't sign them.

[Paul12]

I have always kinda thought that Naby was the replacement for AOC...in other words, Klopp wanted a goal threat from midfield so he bought AOC but, when he was so injury-prone, he bought Naby. Then, when he was injury-prone, he...erm.

[Mark79]

I have always kinda thought that Naby was the replacement for AOC...in other words, Klopp wanted a goal threat from midfield so he bought AOC but, when he was so injury-prone, he bought Naby. Then, when he was injury-prone, he...erm.

Naby and Ox were signed in the same window, though Naby didn’t arrive until the following summer. Naby actually joined a few days before Ox.

[ronanm]

I have always kinda thought that Naby was the replacement for AOC...in other words, Klopp wanted a goal threat from midfield so he bought AOC but, when he was so injury-prone, he bought Naby. Then, when he was injury-prone, he...erm.

[Paul12]

Naby and Ox were signed in the same window, though Naby didn’t arrive until the following summer. Naby actually joined a few days before Ox.

Shows what getting six years older has done to my memory!

[SB]

Yep. Roar them on when they are on the pitch, and hope they improve as long as they are wearing our red.


Once they are gone, then they are gone.

The ones that were let downs because of injuries, well it is difficult to blame the players for that as it was out of their hands. They are let downs in the sense that they showed signs that they could have been good if not for those injuries as we would have had high hopes as fans but not a thing to berate them over.


The only ones that deserve real disdain when gone/leaving are the ones that disgraced themselves with their behaviour, the likes of Diouf for example.

1000% in agreement with you.

[Irishnev]

Joining Villa - Tielemans as well

[Mark79]

Only according to Talk Sport, at this stage.

Tielemans is official though.

[danperkins]

Magnificent news, glorious getting these wgae drains off our books. Villa's problem now.

[rudedog]

Good luck to the lad, seems like a decent bloke. That knee injury properly screwed his LFC career, at a time when he was really starting to contribute. He never looked the same afterwards.

A proper sliding doors moment.

[Paul12]

Good luck to the lad, seems like a decent bloke. That knee injury properly screwed his LFC career, at a time when he was really starting to contribute. He never looked the same afterwards.

A proper sliding doors moment.

In isolation, I'd agree. But taking into account what happened to him at Arsenal, he is a talented but injury-prone player.