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    He doesn’t look miles away from fitness based on that..?
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      Originally posted by Sus View Post
      Part of the comeback this season will be mental as well, surely. Testing his knee in those first few tackles, and seeing it hold up. I imagine that would take a while for anyone to get past, no matter how positive your mentality.
      I think they are ultra careful with that injury and overkill the recovery time because if you breakdown during the recovery chances are you have to have the op again and its a long long road back
      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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        Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
        He doesn’t look miles away from fitness based on that..?
        As I said above they will overkill the recovery because the last thing they want is him to breakdown

        I think hes ahead of schedule but I suspect not as far ahead as some believe
        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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          he should just postpone any thought of a come back and start fresh again in preseason.

          more chance of a better recovery and removes all sentiment from any decision. Best for player and best for club

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            Why? Its a hell of a aim for him. Get fit and get some minutes in a potential title winning season.

            Imagine how he would feel if he worked his nuts off all year, for Klopp to say "Yeah there is 6 weeks left of the season, but rest up and get ready for LA Galaxy in the summer"

            Would be extremely demoralising. Even if its a few 10-20 minute sub appearances. He needs to play if he is fit. Plus, hes ****ing brilliant. So will add a bit to our Midfield.
            *Except Michael, who died.

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              Originally posted by Alex View Post
              Why? Its a hell of a aim for him. Get fit and get some minutes in a potential title winning season.

              Imagine how he would feel if he worked his nuts off all year, for Klopp to say "Yeah there is 6 weeks left of the season, but rest up and get ready for LA Galaxy in the summer"

              Would be extremely demoralising. Even if its a few 10-20 minute sub appearances. He needs to play if he is fit. Plus, hes ****ing brilliant. So will add a bit to our Midfield.
              This. If he is fit and ready, he is fit and ready. The medical team and Klopp will not allow him to play unless he is fit

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                Originally posted by ntto View Post
                he should just postpone any thought of a come back and start fresh again in preseason.

                more chance of a better recovery and removes all sentiment from any decision. Best for player and best for club
                Is it though? No guarantees he won't breakdown next year or get hit by a bus. This season could be a once in a lifetime chance to be part of a historic event, so if there is a chance he will be fit, I'm not sure how he will feel it's in his interest to postpone his return as a precaution.

                I get the point you are making, but it's a lot easier for you or me to see it that way, totally different for the person involved. If I was in his position, I know what I would be doing.
                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  Originally posted by Alex View Post
                  Why? Its a hell of a aim for him. Get fit and get some minutes in a potential title winning season.

                  Imagine how he would feel if he worked his nuts off all year, for Klopp to say "Yeah there is 6 weeks left of the season, but rest up and get ready for LA Galaxy in the summer"

                  Would be extremely demoralising. Even if its a few 10-20 minute sub appearances. He needs to play if he is fit. Plus, hes ****ing brilliant. So will add a bit to our Midfield.


                  Got interrupted after I started my post above.
                  If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                    Originally posted by Alex View Post
                    Why? Its a hell of a aim for him. Get fit and get some minutes in a potential title winning season.

                    Imagine how he would feel if he worked his nuts off all year, for Klopp to say "Yeah there is 6 weeks left of the season, but rest up and get ready for LA Galaxy in the summer"

                    Would be extremely demoralising. Even if its a few 10-20 minute sub appearances. He needs to play if he is fit. Plus, hes ****ing brilliant. So will add a bit to our Midfield.
                    And if he breaks down the first thing we will hear is he should have been rested more and eased back in

                    History should tell us this is an injury that you need to be over cautious on

                    I would rather wrap him in cotton wool than in anyway run any kind of risk of him doing it again
                    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                      If I was in his position, I know what I would be doing.
                      He will be taking the advice off the people in the medical teams close to him

                      It looks like hes ahead of schedule and even Klopp has said this but I am not sure they will push him or allow him to push himself too much
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        And if he breaks down the first thing we will hear is he should have been rested more and eased back in

                        History should tell us this is an injury that you need to be over cautious on

                        I would rather wrap him in cotton wool than in anyway run any kind of risk of him doing it again
                        In all fairness Leccy, the medical staff are better qualified than all of us. It will be ultimatley them who give the green or the red light

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                          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                          And if he breaks down the first thing we will hear is he should have been rested more and eased back in

                          History should tell us this is an injury that you need to be over cautious on

                          I would rather wrap him in cotton wool than in anyway run any kind of risk of him doing it again
                          I reckon that outlook is becoming a bit old-fashioned and out-dated now Lecter. I think sports science has moved on from that. He looks so fit already. They will have a million metrics on all aspect of his fitness. They know he's close and they've no need to rush him.

                          The way they have publicised that he'll be back in full training before the end of Feb shows how confident they are.

                          Assuming there's no more setbacks I'd expect him to play about 10 games before the end of the season, which will be a massive boost before the run-in.

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                            Has there been a more hotly anticipated return than this? Struggling to think of any of our main players who have done their ACL.

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                              Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                              I reckon that outlook is becoming a bit old-fashioned and out-dated now Lecter. I think sports science has moved on from that. He looks so fit already. They will have a million metrics on all aspect of his fitness. They know he's close and they've no need to rush him.

                              The way they have publicised that he'll be back in full training before the end of Feb shows how confident they are.

                              Assuming there's no more setbacks I'd expect him to play about 10 games before the end of the season, which will be a massive boost before the run-in.
                              So at the end of Feb, I think we have 10 league games remaining. I think 10’is optimistic. But certainly we should have him for at least the last 5 (based on nothing but optimism)
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                There's two U23 games in March, so maybe they'll test him there first, see how he responds, and take it from there.

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