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  • Phoenix07
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    Found the quotes. Make up your own minds on it (Regarding Mkhitaryan).

    “I had that player,” Klopp said in July 2016. “If you have had players, you know more about them. You want to learn about other players. That's how it is.

    “I knew quite early that he was going this way (to Old Trafford). There was absolutely no reason for me to jump in there. That isn’t how we work.

    “We didn’t look for players we had already worked with. If you do that, you know their good, their bad and you wonder whether you will do it again.

    “It’s not boring but you know everything about each other so how can you develop? Where is the next step? Where is the next push for development?

    “We could have gone for a lot of players. But, first of all, you have to think: what do I need?”

    This does not always stand up to scrutiny, of course. That same summer, Klopp tried to reunite with Mario Gotze, who ended up leaving Bayern Munich to return to Dortmund.

    Talks were held with the Germany international but with the Reds unable to offer Champions League football, Gotze wouldn't commit and wanted to keep his options open until after Euro 2016.

    Klopp ended the club's pursuit and completed a £30million deal for Sadio Mane instead.

    Klopp is also a keen admirer of Christian Pulisic, although the American did not make his first-team debut at Dortmund until the season after Klopp's departure from Westfalenstadion.

    Yet the Liverpool boss' words should be heeded. Familiarity might not necessarily breed contempt, but it certainly does not guarantee the desire to be reunited.

    If anything, it makes it all the more unlikely.

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...eyang-14200909

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  • Pablo
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    Originally posted by labourRed View Post
    No idea what the thinking or lack of was, but Aubameyang would have excelled in our team. Silly money though IIRC.
    He cost them £56m according to Wikipedia.

    He's 30 this year so it was a bit of a short term buy.

    With 26 goals in 40 appearances so far it's hard to argue it hasn't worked out well for them though.

    I'd have taken him!

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  • labourRed
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    Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
    Klopp likes to have players who he feels he can improve further. Apparently, that's part of the reason why he never went for the likes of Aubameyang, Reus etc. I can't remember where I read that (was it the Honigstein book?) He'd already worked with them, and got what he could from them. Working with them again wouldn't have been right for him. I think it's the same with Coutinho.
    No idea what the thinking or lack of was, but Aubameyang would have excelled in our team. Silly money though IIRC.

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  • Phoenix07
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    Klopp likes to have players who he feels he can improve further. Apparently, that's part of the reason why he never went for the likes of Aubameyang, Reus etc. I can't remember where I read that (was it the Honigstein book?) He'd already worked with them, and got what he could from them. Working with them again wouldn't have been right for him. I think it's the same with Coutinho.

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  • labourRed
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    Originally posted by baitman View Post
    Coutinho said he wanted to go to barca, wanted to get cuddles from uncle suarez and live in the sun, so he can ****in rot...
    If he ever came back to the uk then hes even more of a ****in liar than he was before.
    There's no talk of him wanting to, barca wouldn't mind it though from the sounds of it.

    He said the only club he'd ever leave us for was Barca, and to be fair there's the brazilian history there so i can see what it meant.

    You'd be right if he went to the mancs it'd be treachery of the highest degree.

    Personally, i'd take him back, he'd be amazing in our front four.

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  • Fosterbloke
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    Originally posted by dom9 View Post
    Would you prefer him to go to United?
    I'd prefer it if he went to China!

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  • baitman
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    Coutinho said he wanted to go to barca, wanted to get cuddles from uncle suarez and live in the sun, so he can ****in rot...
    If he ever came back to the uk then hes even more of a ****in liar than he was before.

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  • dom9
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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.
    Would you prefer him to go to United?

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  • Resu
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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.
    I`m a bit thorn in cases like this. In one way I agree with you, but I`m a believer in giving people a second chance. If he comes back relatively soon, holds up his hands and says "Sorry, I was wrong" I would probably accept it.

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  • spud_gun
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    Originally posted by Zapater View Post
    We won the CL and Gerrard put a transfer request to goto Chelsea of all places. I know he did a U-turn but I don't see any real difference between to the two situations. History could have turned out very differently. Wouldn't have been forgiven if it were any other player.
    You don't see a difference between putting in a transfer request and refusing to play for the club?

    We'll just end the discussion here then

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  • Zapater
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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    Unless the club were witholding his wages then there was no justification.

    The situation with the club back then was chaotic agreed.

    Irrespective it's unforgivable to take money from the club and then refuse to play.
    We won the CL and Gerrard put a transfer request to goto Chelsea of all places. I know he did a U-turn but I don't see any real difference between to the two situations. History could have turned out very differently. Wouldn't have been forgiven if it were any other player.

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  • spud_gun
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    Originally posted by Zapater View Post
    Unique circumstances. Torres explained it quite well in an interview a while back. Everyone was leaving, promises made were broken. Konchesky and Woy should say more than enough. I blame the club for those, not the players.

    Coutinho is a bit different, but would want him back at a cut price deal if available. The squad would undoubtedly be better with him in it than not.
    Unless the club were witholding his wages then there was no justification.

    The situation with the club back then was chaotic agreed.

    Irrespective it's unforgivable to take money from the club and then refuse to play.

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  • Zapater
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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    Eh....not ****ing chance.

    Anyone who refuses to play for us can get ****ed for eternity. Irrespective of how good they are / were.

    Mascharano is in the same boat. Never understood the love for him after he refused to play for us and forced his way out the club.
    Unique circumstances. Torres explained it quite well in an interview a while back. Everyone was leaving, promises made were broken. Konchesky and Woy should say more than enough. I blame the club for those, not the players.

    Coutinho is a bit different, but would want him back at a cut price deal if available. The squad would undoubtedly be better with him in it than not.

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  • spud_gun
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    Not a chance. I don't want him anywhere near the club.

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  • Maxiedge
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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    Eh....not ****ing chance.

    Anyone who refuses to play for us can get ****ed for eternity. Irrespective of how good they are / were.

    Mascharano is in the same boat. Never understood the love for him after he refused to play for us and forced his way out the club.
    It's not so black and white though is it? He did feign back injury (allegedly) to force a move but when he came back and played, the Fab 4 happened. We don't know the pressure he was under from Barca/family at the time. He certainly seemed conflicted.

    If he did agree to come back, wouldn't any previous vitriol be bygone? Would you not be willing to forgive him? I think it's something that could work for everyone involved. Only issue would be the family and whether they would back.

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