Philippe Coutinho Post-LFC

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  • Kenneth
    Pond Scum
    • May 2007
    • 65638

    #721
    Everyone around us? We finished 27 points ahead of spurs.
    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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    • spud_gun
      Paisley
      • Jul 2006
      • 26519

      #722
      Originally posted by Kenneth
      Everyone around us? We finished 27 points ahead of spurs.
      and beat them in the European Cup final

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      • kingfunk
        Doesnt subscribe to Craig's conspiracy theories!
        • May 2008
        • 11755

        #723
        If it’s true that £80m is the price tag we would be mad not to go back for him, one of our best creative midfielders ever back, with basically Barca paying us 60m for a season long loan. Yes I’m ignoring the add-ons...

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        • Buzzo
          Donald Buzzworth
          • Jun 2010
          • 67435

          #724
          Originally posted by spud_gun
          and beat them in the European Cup final
          And we beat Barca, featuring wee Judas Phil 4-0 to get to that final
          Modifying post.

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          • Fuzzy
            Dalglish
            • Nov 2017
            • 2238

            #725
            If we can afford to loan Coutinho, but decide against it, what are the benefits of that decision?

            Honestly I'm asking because I can't find any, so I want somebody to tell me.

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            • fabinho
              Fagan
              • Jun 2018
              • 1557

              #726
              Originally posted by Fuzzy
              If we can afford to loan Coutinho, but decide against it, what are the benefits of that decision?

              Honestly I'm asking because I can't find any, so I want somebody to tell me.
              I agree. I was initially opposed to this after his antics last time, but Barca was his big dream and it turned sour. He's probably learnt a massive lesson over this and probably appreciates what he had with us more now than ever. If we could get him back, I could see us being his last European club.

              Lets not let him go elsewhere.
              Glass half empty club

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              • labourRed
                Paisley
                • Jun 2015
                • 13454

                #727
                Originally posted by Fuzzy
                If we can afford to loan Coutinho, but decide against it, what are the benefits of that decision?

                Honestly I'm asking because I can't find any, so I want somebody to tell me.
                Financial.

                It's a big loan fee. As Klopp said, massive, massive money. And for whatever reason, that's not happening this summer.

                Also factor in FSG policy on transfer clearly is buy young sell for profit later. Coutinho is 27 and that cycle has ended (maybe earlier than ideal) but I can understand the pass nevertheless.

                That said in the short term I think he'd work well given he knows our game, players etc. So I'm in the pro camp despite it being a nonrunner.

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                • Exiled_red
                  Paisley
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 55280

                  #728
                  Originally posted by Fuzzy
                  If we can afford to loan Coutinho, but decide against it, what are the benefits of that decision?

                  Honestly I'm asking because I can't find any, so I want somebody to tell me.
                  I think he's a good player and would like him back, and certainly wouldn't want to see him at another PL club.

                  I guess the question is where he plays, he doesn't really fit into the front 3 so it has to be a midfield role. I would like to see us play with a more creative player in there than we had last year, but does Klopp want to do that?

                  If we take our regular midfield last year as Fabinho, Wijnaldum and Henderson, does putting Coutinho in for one of Henderson or Wijnaldum give you enough workers in midfield? It's certainly a change in the midfield dynamic. That and the money are the only reasons I can think of.
                  The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                  • Fuzzy
                    Dalglish
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 2238

                    #729
                    I said if we 'can' afford it... If we really can't afford a loan fee though, due to contract extensions, after the season we've had...
                    Btw I thought Klopp was referring to a permanent transfer.

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                    • Fredo
                      Not to be taken seriously
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 35173

                      #730
                      Originally posted by Fuzzy
                      If we can afford to loan Coutinho, but decide against it, what are the benefits of that decision?

                      Honestly I'm asking because I can't find any, so I want somebody to tell me.
                      We don't need another player in midfield and we have a good enough squad?
                      Are we winning?

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                      • -V-
                        Paisley
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 13049

                        #731
                        Originally posted by kingfunk
                        Well, this summer is not going how I hoped...
                        Originally posted by Irishnev
                        If he goes on loan to Spurs it will be disappointing - he was our best player and although he shafted us () he could really add to our attack and midfield.

                        Everyone around us is strengthening and we just seem content with what we've got. I've faith in Klopp and Edward's but they are rolling the dice with the squad depth
                        Disappointed? Crap summer?

                        Really.... I thought we were the champions of ****in Europe

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                        • Assassin
                          Kloppite
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 25908

                          #732
                          Why would we want to bring someone back who isnt suited to our style of play? He doesnt have the engine or the willingness to press. He isnt dynamic enough and slowed down our play to a standstill. He couldnt cut it at Barca in an easy league with a myriad of good players around him and all of the time and space in the world

                          Happy he was our cash cow, we really ripped Barca a new one

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                          • kingfunk
                            Doesnt subscribe to Craig's conspiracy theories!
                            • May 2008
                            • 11755

                            #733
                            Originally posted by Assassin
                            Why would we want to bring someone back who isnt suited to our style of play? He doesnt have the engine or the willingness to press. He isnt dynamic enough and slowed down our play to a standstill. He couldnt cut it at Barca in an easy league with a myriad of good players around him and all of the time and space in the world

                            Happy he was our cash cow, we really ripped Barca a new one
                            Good points tbf.

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                            • Norbs
                              Big Girl's Blouse
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 42645

                              #734
                              Originally posted by Assassin
                              Why would we want to bring someone back who isnt suited to our style of play? He doesnt have the engine or the willingness to press. He isnt dynamic enough and slowed down our play to a standstill. He couldnt cut it at Barca in an easy league with a myriad of good players around him and all of the time and space in the world

                              Happy he was our cash cow, we really ripped Barca a new one
                              He's a great individual but never thought there was much effort for the team

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                              • Irishnev
                                Paisley
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 18294

                                #735
                                Originally posted by -V-
                                Disappointed? Crap summer?

                                Really.... I thought we were the champions of ****in Europe
                                Yes we are but i also want to be Premier League winners and he'd help achieve that

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