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    Originally posted by baitman View Post
    Precisely this.
    They will be installing a revolving door when kirkby is redeveloped.
    Sometimes we have held on to players for far too long. If it was because we still were lacking a suitable replacement then fair enough, although more should have been done to ensure we were not reliant on fading or sub standard players.
    If we were to be hanging on to them due to sentiment then thats poor management, when we were world beaters we were always ready to replace when needed, even if the player in question had been an absolute legend for us.
    Players like who? You said pre-season that Klopp is too nice to change keepers based on nothing and other people say **** like Klopp has a soft spot for Lallana which is purely bollocks as he's one of the most ruthless managers in the game.

    If anything sentiment has worked against us as he's let people like Lucas and Klavan go who could still do a job.

    If we got rid of every player fans felt were surplus we'd be left with ateam consisting Salah and Virgil (who admittedly would still probably beat most PL teams. ).
    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
      Players like who? You said pre-season that Klopp is too nice to change keepers based on nothing and other people say **** like Klopp has a soft spot for Lallana which is purely bollocks as he's one of the most ruthless managers in the game.

      If anything sentiment has worked against us as he's let people like Lucas and Klavan go who could still do a job.

      If we got rid of every player fans felt were surplus we'd be left with ateam consisting Salah and Virgil (who admittedly would still probably beat most PL teams. ).
      Im just talking in general terrms. Shankley and Paisley didnt wobble when it came to telling seasoned veterans their time was up.
      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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        Shankly

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          Originally posted by Norbs View Post
          Maybe his body can't do that hence the club altering his role so that his runs are over a shorter distance
          maybe

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            Originally posted by baitman View Post
            Im just talking in general terrms. Shankley and Paisley didnt wobble when it came to telling seasoned veterans their time was up.
            Shankly or Paisley managed in a completely different era and comparisons are pointless. At the time they didn't even need to make those kind of decisions as they were playing the same team week in week out.

            You're a broken record Batman.
            Are we winning?

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              Lallana and Henderson will be even more valuable if there any future squad restrictions regarding foreigners.
              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                Originally posted by baitman View Post
                Im just talking in general terrms. Shankley and Paisley didnt wobble when it came to telling seasoned veterans their time was up.
                I think this is a bit of a re-writing of history

                Paisley was absolutely ruthless and frequently got rid of players before they even started declining

                Shankly on the other hand was far too loyal at times, there is the famous game v Watford in 1970 when Shankly says he realised he had to break up that side and ship out the veteran players he had started with (this was 4 years after they lifted their last trophy which I think was the league in 1966)

                "I thought some of them would have gone on longer than they did," he admitted. "They had won the league, the FA Cup and the league again.

                "I would think about the players we had and I could see that some of them were going a bit."
                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                  Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                  Lallana and Henderson will be even more valuable if there any future squad restrictions regarding foreigners.
                  I personally think Lallana might have been shipped out if Chamberlain was fit

                  Henderson for me still has a role to play
                  Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                    I personally think Lallana might have been shipped out if Chamberlain was fit

                    Henderson for me still has a role to play
                    Maybe not shipped out but I can't imagine he would have got much game time if Ox had been available. In any case you'd have to say his days are numbered.
                    "If Ritchie Blackmore fell into a vat of ****, he'd turn out to be wearing a rubber suit." - Ronnie James Dio

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                      Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                      Lallana and Henderson will be even more valuable if there any future squad restrictions regarding foreigners.
                      Well it's currently 8 homegrown players in CL and the PL squads of 25, at present we must be close to that minimum: Clyne, TAA, Gomez, Milner, Henderson, Lallana, Ox, Sturridge and Solanke are the only ones with any experience. At present some still count as youngsters but in a couple of years we'll be needing to sign homegrown players (or develop our own) to replace any of those who leave
                      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                        Brazil midfielder Fabinho could be set to leave Liverpool for Paris St-Germain just six months after moving to Anfield because he is "bored". (Le Parisien - in French)

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                          Originally posted by Saveloy View Post


                          Brazil midfielder Fabinho could be set to leave Liverpool for Paris St-Germain just six months after moving to Anfield because he is "bored". (Le Parisien - in French)
                          lol
                          Was muß, das muß.

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                            Originally posted by Saveloy View Post


                            Brazil midfielder Fabinho could be set to leave Liverpool for Paris St-Germain just six months after moving to Anfield because he is "bored". (Le Parisien - in French)
                            Doubt that's true but I think we have overpaid for him even at the current market rate.
                            Y.N.W.A!!!!!!

                            "There are two great teams on Merseyside; Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves." - Bill Shankly

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                              Originally posted by Corndog View Post
                              Doubt that's true but I think we have overpaid for him even at the current market rate.
                              No way. He's going to be great.

                              He doesn't even need to be that great to be worth the fee in a current market that saw Fred go to Utd.

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                                Originally posted by Corndog View Post
                                Doubt that's true but I think we have overpaid for him even at the current market rate.


                                Seriously? He was pivotal in winning Monaco the league. A team that also included Mbappe.
                                Was muß, das muß.

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