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    You could take your pick of poor performances today or this season but the drop off of this guy has been staggering. So slow, cumbersome, lazy and does nothing. I don't get it.

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      He seems completely and utterly washed out. It’s not an age thing but is legs have gone. Maybe a move to centre back would be better for him now.
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        When he lost the ball in the closing stages that lead to a break he was surrounded by 3 Forest players; midfield was totally disjointed. Right at the end, "Hendo" went in for a tackle and ended up on his arse which lead to another fast Forest break and shot against the post.

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          Starting to seriously worry about him now tbh. He's playing like a drunk Momo Sissoko this season
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            I can't believe the drop off on his form and conditioning. It's alarming

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              Yeah he's been really poor all season, his form was patchy at the end of last season too. This version of him definately doesn't work in a CM two
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                Its because he's having to do the defensive work for 3 players. He's covering Elliott/Mo, our RB playing as a winger and then he himself still being DM - in an injury ravaged/geriatric midfield.

                And people wonder why he looks knackered. He is
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                  Was hardly a geriatric midfield on Saturday?

                  He’s been poor, why do you give him a pass?
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                    I have to say I don't think that trio works when Thiago and Elliott don't really have the same back and forth dynamism. You need at least two to be working their legs all match. Fab does look knackered to me, it's a lot of ground to cover.
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                      Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                      Was hardly a geriatric midfield on Saturday?

                      He’s been poor, why do you give him a pass?
                      as I said above, he's doing the work of 3 players. Sort this new **** system we're trying to play out and I bet he'll be back to his fab self
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                        Originally posted by Harv View Post
                        as I said above, he's doing the work of 3 players. Sort this new **** system we're trying to play out and I bet he'll be back to his fab self
                        You’d hope so but he’s been nowhere near his normal self……. this slump must be training related or some squad disharmony. I can’t believe the drop off is just they all aged together

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                          Gini; thats the difference. Get a player who puts in as shift like he did & Fab will look so much better.

                          His game is being affected by everything around him

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                            Originally posted by S-RED View Post
                            Gini; thats the difference. Get a player who puts in as shift like he did & Fab will look so much better.

                            His game is being affected by everything around him
                            Didn’t affect us last season.
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                              The problem for me is the minutes he's played and the lack of opportunity for a rest because of the limited availability of other players in the midfield. Realistically there is him, Henderson and Thiago who are experienced players who are able to start games regularly, you can add Elliott as an up and coming player of appropriate quality but he lacks experience. Milner has the experience but doesn't have the legs and has been filling in elsewhere in the side. The lack of availability of Keita and Ox in particular and Jones to a lesser extent over the last year and Arthur Melo since he arrived is a big problem for our midfield, for me Fabinho is suffering from that.

                              I also don't think that going to a 2 man centre midfield suits the players we have particularly when you consider that his partner in there is a 31 year old Thiago or a 32 year old Henderson.

                              IMO if we had been able to swap Keita and Ox even for players of similar quality but who were actually available for games that would make a big difference to everyone in our midfield.
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                                Seems like puntong Morton out on loan was a mistake. He is doing really well by all accounts. Not that having a load of kids is the answer, but in terms of having better bespoke cover for positions he looks a prospect.

                                As per every season we have struggled, you just cannot legislate for this level of injury, which asks a bigger question.
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