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    Originally posted by Ams12 View Post
    Eat more train less get better results!? Sounds too good to be true? Well it's not and i will tell you how...as soon as i get home
    How far away from home are you? I'd like to go to bed in a bit.

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      Originally posted by Kenny View Post
      How far away from home are you? I'd like to go to bed in a bit.
      you go up, he'll be there in a bit
      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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        Originally posted by baitman View Post
        you go up, he'll be there in a bit


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          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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            Just bought a 2nd hand treadmill off ebay... Not really used it yet, but I think I did my weeks worth of exercise just getting it from the car to the garage... ****ing heavy ******* it is...
            Thought it better to sweat in private for a while before I think about taking to the streets, and hearing all the 'mummy, why is that fat man sweating so much?' comments

            Now just need the motivation to actually start using it...

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              Motivation... hm... here, check this:

              [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbVpCc_r9Sw"]Ex-paratrooper's Amazing Transformation is Inspirational - YouTube[/ame]

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                Ok here is the secret!!
                Running doesnt work well enough to burn fat...hit the training hard for only 1 hour a day by doing this (assuming you have no equipment except a pull up bar):

                50 squats
                40 sit ups
                30 burpees
                20 press ups
                10 pull ups
                Repeat 5 times with 2mins rest between rounds!

                Very simple as not including any equipment yet gets the heart rate super high and melts fat and improves fitness levels because you are keeping the heart rate up so high!

                Obviously add in some strength training if you do have access to the gym eg...day 1 deadlifts & bench press 5 sets x 5 reps and day 2 squats & weighted pull ups 5 x 5...day 3 repeat day 1...day 4 repeat day 2!

                One more bonus conditioning workout to help you guys mix it up:

                15 recline rows
                15 decline press ups
                15 box jumps
                14 recline rows
                14 decline press ups
                14 box jumps
                ...
                1 recline row
                1 decline press up
                1 box jump

                Have your body fat tested now then do this 4 days a week (mon tues thurs fri) for a month then tell me how much body fat has disappeared!?

                Now the most important thing to get those results is in the NUTRITION!! Without that you won't get very far!! Key tips:
                Dont eat any starchy carbs or at the very least no more than 50g for breaky OR 1st meal after training...all protein and veg and nuts for your meals!
                Drink plenty of water...about 2-3 litters a day!
                Always eat breakfast!!
                Nuts are a source of protein and GOOD fats...you need some!!
                Protein intake per day should be at least 1.2g - 2g per kg of body weight spread over your 5-6 meals.

                Hope that helps my fellow scousers

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                  Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post


                  Motivation... hm... here, check this:
                  So you're saying I should join the army, jump out of planes, **** up my back and knees, then I'll have motivation?... hmmm... A bottle of red and some stilton still seems preferable

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                    Originally posted by Ams12 View Post
                    Very simple as not including any equipment yet gets the heart rate super high and melts fat and improves fitness levels because you are keeping the heart rate up so high!
                    No doubt that would get you pretty fit! That said, surely if it's fat burning you're after you don't want to be pushing so close to your max heart rate? You burn fat better doing more prolonged less intense exercise than that.
                    Like blood on iron

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                      Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                      No doubt that would get you pretty fit! That said, surely if it's fat burning you're after you don't want to be pushing so close to your max heart rate? You burn fat better doing more prolonged less intense exercise than that.
                      Quite the opposite! It's all about creating EPOC (Excess Post-E ercise Oxygen Consumption). Doing prolonged less intense exercise doesn't create that much epoc after training...usually your metabolism re-regulates 1-2 hours after exercise. Exercising in short high intensity bursts creates a massive epoc which usually lasts 7-8 hours after training. Couple in some strength training and that muscle soreness you feel for a few days after exercise means your body is burning more calories while it repairs itself 2-3 DAYS after exercise!! Get in, get out and enjoy your time!! Nobody really wants to brisk walk on a treadmill for 2 hours a day 5 days a week!

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                        Interesting, I had no idea that would be substantial enough to make up for the differences during exercise. Makes sense though.

                        By the way, I didn't mean brisk walk, that ****'s for the birds! I meant something like running at about 75% max heart rate, which will obviously give you more of the post-ex benefits too. Would be interesting to see if there are studies that have quantified an optimum for weight loss based on more than what happens during exercise.

                        Come to think of it, what you say fits in with my experience running too; I switched route to one the same distance and running at the same overall exertion, but with more hills effectively adding a high intensity interval element and I started to lose weight ridiculously fast. Not what I was looking to do unfortunately, and a shame because I really love running hills but not sure I fancy being a rake!
                        Like blood on iron

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                          Yup the brisk walk was a generalization...its the spikes in heart rate that elicit the fat burning results...caffeine also has good fat burning properties so green teas and coffee should also be on the menu

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                            Talking of max heart rate, according to most calculations, mine should be about about 10-20 bpm below what it actually is.

                            When I'm riding my bike I can ride for ages at what the maximum is supposed to be.

                            I realise max HR is only a guide but
                            .
                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                            May the Lord bless this post.

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                              Originally posted by Ams12 View Post
                              Yup the brisk walk was a generalization...its the spikes in heart rate that elicit the fat burning results...caffeine also has good fat burning properties so green teas and coffee should also be on the menu
                              I love both of those things

                              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                              Talking of max heart rate, according to most calculations, mine should be about about 10-20 bpm below what it actually is.

                              When I'm riding my bike I can ride for ages at what the maximum is supposed to be.

                              I realise max HR is only a guide but


                              All these equations for working it out are just best estimates for people who aren't prepared to really push themselves and measure it properly.
                              Like blood on iron

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                                im currently on my 11th pint of the night, which is around 2000 calories

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