FA asks Liverpool to explain show of support for convicted criminal

[dww]

I'm going to start a campaign to swap Michael Shields with fredo.

Do you think they would do a mosaic at Anfield? He's over for Christmas you know.

[AFII]

Trust the FA to find an excuse to issue a fine and boost their coffers.

They don't need to find an excuse. It's against the rules to do what we did.

We will get fined but the club got the message out.

[Darkon]

That is true but as far as I'm aware much of the evidence for his innocence simply wasn't given at court. Therefore it wasn't really out weighed.

I'll admit I would prefer a 'Justice for MIchael Shields' campaign but I really think people should have the right to vocally campaign on such issues even in the forum of a football match.

I agree completly that people should have the chance to get involved and state what they believe, but I don't think it is the place of LFC to get involved - especially when the verdict is still not certain. As far as I know it is even illegal to try and influence a case at the courts, but perhaps not when the case is abroad.

I think it is fine if he gets his case tried in the UK, and have that being a part of it. Then they could weigh the evidence and see if a different result would come up. But so far all we really know is that the bulgarian courts have found enough evidence to convict him, which for me makes it hard to say he should be free.

[Elvoz]

Oh, I'm sure she's imaginary.

i was thinking the very same
could be one o them cardboard cut outs off the fosters ads

[Elvoz]

I agree completly that people should have the chance to get involved and state what they believe, but I don't think it is the place of LFC to get involved - especially when the verdict is still not certain. As far as I know it is even illegal to try and influence a case at the courts, but perhaps not when the case is abroad.

I think it is fine if he gets his case tried in the UK, and have that being a part of it. Then they could weigh the evidence and see if a different result would come up. But so far all we really know is that the bulgarian courts have found enough evidence to convict him, which for me makes it hard to say he should be free.

he,s in prison mate -guilty apparantly

[Darkon]

think your fighting a losing battle here mate

let him rot in jail and join the i,m alright jack brigade
i go to these ****in games it could of been me or a mate
locked up for something you didnt do - it happens and as you say dww you use the tolls you can to help

im very disappointed by some of the people and their attitudes - but then again im not a selfish ****er

Get of your high horse mate, having another pov. does not make you selfish. I a happy you feel well rightous for having your opinion but that does not make any more correct.

I still need to know how you can be so certain he did not do it? What evidence have you seen in his favour? and what evidence have you seen against? We only have one-sided reports, which for me is not enough to question the partially of an independent court.

I am all for people getting involved as individuals, and as said earlier that he gets an appeal in the UK. But I don't think it is the place of LFC to get involved in this...

[red g]

I'm going to start a campaign to swap Michael Shields with fredo.

when i turned the tv on and it said free michael now, i thought we were trying to get the welsh midget back!!

[dww]

I agree completly that people should have the chance to get involved and state what they believe, but I don't think it is the place of LFC to get involved - especially when the verdict is still not certain. As far as I know it is even illegal to try and influence a case at the courts, but perhaps not when the case is abroad.

I think it is fine if he gets his case tried in the UK, and have that being a part of it. Then they could weigh the evidence and see if a different result would come up. But so far all we really know is that the bulgarian courts have found enough evidence to convict him, which for me makes it hard to say he should be free.

There is no court case, here or abroad, at present and therefore nothing to influence in that respect. There is the possibility that tomorrow (I think ) there may be a decision to hear the case in a UK court given that Bulgaria say we can if we want to.

We do know something other than the fact that he was found guilty which is that many of the witnesses to the crime and the location of Michael Shields were not heard at the trial. We also know that having seen this evidence Jack Straw asked the Bulgarian government to give him a pardon (which they said they couldn't). Obviously this is far from conclusive and really only a strong argument for an appeal of some kind.

I agree that a campaign for him to be freed is slightly uncomfortable but I think the underlying point of trying to get a trial where all the evidence is heard is important and it was right to make it. On the balance of things I would much prefer people went a bit over the top in making sure things were heard/discussed than allowed it to fade out of public consciousness.

[Elvoz]

Get of your high horse mate, having another pov. does not make you selfish. I a happy you feel well rightous for having your opinion but that does not make any more correct.

I still need to know how you can be so certain he did not do it? What evidence have you seen in his favour? and what evidence have you seen against? We only have one-sided reports, which for me is not enough to question the partially of an independent court.

I am all for people getting involved as individuals, and as said earlier that he gets an appeal in the UK. But I don't think it is the place of LFC to get involved in this...

read page 1 mate i listed two there
they had to prove he was guilty - they didnt yet locked him up

do you not think its a bit suspicious
and course you can have an opinion
but your just wrong

[Guest]

think your fighting a losing battle here mate

let him rot in jail and join the i,m alright jack brigade
i go to these ****in games it could of been me or a mate
locked up for something you didnt do - it happens and as you say dww you use the tolls you can to help

im very disappointed by some of the people and their attitudes - but then again im not a selfish ****er

I am not saying to 'let him rot in jail' just basically saying that it's not the club's duty (or the press) to instigate a campaign to 'free Shields'. What if he ever was really guilty of this criminal act?

There's enough pressure being made (and it's been done for the past 3 years) for people to be 'aware' of this case. Judging by the way you put it, the bulgarian justice system is a bit of a farce if they can't trial Shields on fair grounds.

I'll say it again; you wouldn't know for sure if he's guilty or not. If you are then you must be a really smart arse. Just show me the evidence.

[Chrono]

let him rot in jail and join the i,m alright jack brigade

Yeah, totally!

**** that idiot that got his head smashed in with a paving stone!

[Guest]

read page 1 mate i listed two there
they had to prove he was guilty - they didnt yet locked him up

do you not think its a bit suspicious
and course you can have an opinion
but your just wrong

Because the court said so and to me this implies that they have seen enough evidence to 'lock him up'.

[Neil Young]

[Guest]

Inconclusive.

[The Glove]

So you have someone who didint fit the description, was made to look like the description, shown to the witnesses before any line up and also have someone else confess to the crime and thats not a mis-carraige of justice? ****in hell, what is then?