Andy Carroll - Best Striker in the World

[Lecter]

Player shoeing the manager off the pitch is not in any way normal though tbh. Says something about the dynamic between the two, or the feeling of Gerrard. Not sure what like, but something.

Its not normal to see a manager on a pitch so its an unusual situation

[Rocky Sullivan]

i thought it was motre in the way gerrard told him to leave, i genuinely dont feel gerrard was thinking about kenny being banished to the stands, that wasnt his worries.

[Gibbo]

Not even Hull fans are that special.

[MrMichael]

He was most likely just ****ed off at his hometown fans booing his every touch. I couldn't understand why they gave him such harsh treatment, considering he never asked for the move.

Yeah, I really don't get the way its become common place for almost every ex-player to get booed by footy fans. If they're the likes of Diouf fair enough, or even if they left on a real sour note like Torres did with us, but its a bit distasteful imo in a situation like Carroll's @ Newcastle.

Fwiw I was so frustrated with Carroll yesterday. If that was a dive it was awful, if it was a stumble its probably even worse. Plus that ridiculous attempt at a 1-2 with Suarez after about 10 mins, if he'd returned the ball normally Suarez would have been clean through, instead the ball was so overhit it went out towards the corner flag.

Right now I'm kinda praying Harry stays at Spurs and offers us £15m for him, can't see who else would take him off us and I really can't see it working for him at Anfield any more. Not going to give the guy abuse but he is going to go down as one of the biggest transfer bungles ever I think.

[Mostar]

Yeah, I really don't get the way its become common place for almost every ex-player to get booed by footy fans. If they're the likes of Diouf fair enough, or even if they left on a real sour note like Torres did with us, but its a bit distasteful imo in a situation like Carroll's @ Newcastle.

Fwiw I was so frustrated with Carroll yesterday. If that was a dive it was awful, if it was a stumble its probably even worse. Plus that ridiculous attempt at a 1-2 with Suarez after about 10 mins, if he'd returned the ball normally Suarez would have been clean through, instead the ball was so overhit it went out towards the corner flag.

Right now I'm kinda praying Harry stays at Spurs and offers us £15m for him, can't see who else would take him off us and I really can't see it working for him at Anfield any more. Not going to give the guy abuse but he is going to go down as one of the biggest transfer bungles ever I think.

Only other 2 clubs imo that may show interest in him in summer may be Villa and Sunderland but I still think we will have hell of time off loading him cause wages will be a problem for most middle-table clubs.

[MrMichael]

Only other 2 clubs imo that may show interest in him in summer may be Villa and Sunderland but I still think we will have hell of time off loading him cause wages will be a problem for most middle-table clubs.

Yup. I really struggle to see where he'd go, if he had cost us something just shy of £20m say I'd think there would be clubs like Stoke, Sunderland etc thinking of a cheeky £10m bid and dealing with the wages issue. But I honestly can't see many even contemplating it unless it was clear we were prepared to take such a huge loss.

[yamiedo]

Didn't deserve to be booed. He did well for Newcastle, helped get them back into the Championship. Helped to stabilize their team in the prem. **** fans to boo the guy when he never even wanted a move in the first place. I feel bad for Carroll as I genuinely think he is better than he is showing and it must hurt to be booed by the team that once used to sing your praises and by the hometown of where your from.

[Exiled_red]

I'm not convinced he dives I think he may just lose his footing, his touch where he takes it around the keeper isn't very heavy, as his momentum takes him forward he almost leaves the ball behind. He kind of leaves his right leg there to get the ball, but hasn't got his left leg on the ground, so falls over. I think if he had waited until he got his left foot on the ground he wouldn't have been able to get the ball.

He got a real slagging on MOTD2 last nigh for it.

Incidentally how would you distinguish between a dive and someone just losing their balance in those sort of situations, Carroll doen't appeal for a penalty for that.

[kris90210]

I'm not convinced he dives I think he may just lose his footing, his touch where he takes it around the keeper isn't very heavy, as his momentum takes him forward he almost leaves the ball behind. He kind of leaves his right leg there to get the ball, but hasn't got his left leg on the ground, so falls over. I think if he had waited until he got his left foot on the ground he wouldn't have been able to get the ball.

He got a real slagging on MOTD2 last nigh for it.

Incidentally how would you distinguish between a dive and someone just losing their balance in those sort of situations, Carroll doen't appeal for a penalty for that.

You can tell that's a dive mate. It's clear as day. He's not fighting to regain his balance, which he would be doing if it was genuine. He didn't appeal because he knew his dive hadn't worked, so he tried to save face. That's my take on it anyway

[Lecter]

I'm not convinced he dives I think he may just lose his footing, his touch where he takes it around the keeper isn't very heavy, as his momentum takes him forward he almost leaves the ball behind. He kind of leaves his right leg there to get the ball, but hasn't got his left leg on the ground, so falls over. I think if he had waited until he got his left foot on the ground he wouldn't have been able to get the ball.

He got a real slagging on MOTD2 last nigh for it.

Incidentally how would you distinguish between a dive and someone just losing their balance in those sort of situations, Carroll doen't appeal for a penalty for that.

I actually thought this myself

[Spanishfly]

Only other 2 clubs imo that may show interest in him in summer may be Villa and Sunderland but I still think we will have hell of time off loading him cause wages will be a problem for most middle-table clubs.

Like us?

[Kenneth]

You can tell that's a dive mate. It's clear as day. He's not fighting to regain his balance, which he would be doing if it was genuine. He didn't appeal because he knew his dive hadn't worked, so he tried to save face. That's my take on it anyway

he drags his left foot to imply he's been touched by the keeper. Its not a stumble imo.

[Phoenix07]

This game's going to be a big dent to whatever confidence he was building up beforehand.

Carroll's already a mentally fragile player and this game I fear, will spell the end of his time with us.

[Norbs]

This constant nursing is becoming a bit silly. If someone is prepared to break a transfer record for you, and pay you a huge wage then that shows faith from the outset. It's time he grew some and returned that faith

[MrMichael]

he drags his left foot to imply he's been touched by the keeper. Its not a stumble imo.

Yup, you can see he expected to get the touch from Krul (who did well actually not to take him down) his whole movement was just waiting to go down and when there was no contact his shape was such that he was falling anyway.

Imo a genuine goal scorer with the right mentality would have been looking for the goal there, nothing else, and would never have moved in such a way to go over there without being caught. Its harsh but he bottled it there and he did dive, no doubt at all for me.