Villas Boas (EX) Chelsea manager

[AnfieldForever]

Herd mentality.

Hypocritical? Isn’t that what the rest of you are doing?

[Shaggy]

I appreciate everything he’s done for Liverpool, I’ve never doubted that.

What I was trying to point out is that:
- I was glad he was sacked, the timing was right
- Spent millions on ****
- We played dire football at times
- Think that too many people have an un-healthy view of how good he was
- Saying that I wouldn’t be fussed if he replaced AVB

If that's what you "wanted to point out", you went about it in a strange way....

"you will realise he's not as good as you think he is"

Are you honestly telling me that you’ve got the same respect for every former player that has won trophies for Liverpool (every single one?)

Houllier has been hammered on here several times, he won trophies too, doesn’t he deserve respect in the same way?

No, that's obviously not what I'm telling you. I specifically referred to the European Cup. Not "every single manager who's ever won a trophy for us".

Only three managers (3) in our entire history have achieved that.

Three managers. In our entire history.

Rafa is one of them.

I have even more respect for the other two but less personal affection, as they were before my time/when I was very young.

[fidget]

Hypocritical? Isn’t that what the rest of you are doing?

Can you just clarify when exactly you would be happy with him getting the job?
Next season would be far less harmful to us than tomorrow.

[Shaggy]

Hypocritical? Isn’t that what the rest of you are doing?

Nope, not in the slightest. There's a tiny minority of us (with our eyes open, the ones who actually paid attention) swimming against the vast relentless tide of tabloid, Sky Sports News fuelled negativity, built on sensationalism and selectiveness. These people can't think for themselves - they've all bought into the Keys & Gray narrative, which most of us know is complete and utter horse****.

[AnfieldForever]

Can you just clarify when exactly you would be happy with him getting the job?
Next season would be far less harmful to us than tomorrow.

I'm honestly not bothered. We shouldn’t be concerned about what other teams are doing.

Nope, not in the slightest. There's a tiny minority of us (with our eyes open, the ones who actually paid attention) swimming against the vast relentless tide of tabloid, Sky Sports News fuelled negativity, built on sensationalism and selectiveness. These people can't think for themselves - they've all bought into the Keys & Gray narrative, which most of us know is complete and utter horse****.

That's got to be the biggest load of **** ever.

I give up. You win, I wont visit this thread again. I promise

[Lee]

Staggered.

[Rich]

You can't win Shaggy.

I'm flabbergasted that any LFC fan can have such an opinion about a manager that won us an European Cup and FA Cup. And brought us so many fantastic players. And made us the most feared side in Europe. And always treated the fans with the upmost respect. And came very close to winning the league.

But that isn't good enough for some.

[fidget]

I'm honestly not bothered. We shouldn’t be concerned about what other teams are doing.

So you think the management/mismanagement of Chelski has no impact on our attempt to get fourth?

[Shaggy]

I'm honestly not bothered. We shouldn’t be concerned about what other teams are doing.



That's got to be the biggest load of **** ever.

I give up. You win, I wont visit this thread again. I promise

How is it? Explain how it's "the biggest load of **** ever".

Because it patently isn't.

Practically 0% of Chelsea fans want him, Stoke fans didn't want him, Villa fans didn't want him, Wolves fans don't want him, Spurs fans don't want him.

And they have all bought into the bull**** served up to them on Sky Sports by Keys & Gray, and the bile written about him in the tabloids. It is absolutely crystal clear, especially when you talk to them and their reasons for hating him are the same old pitiful reasons..."zonal marking", "**** transfers", "negative", "2 holding midfielders" (oh look, everyone does it now )....the same ****e that anyone with half a brain and anyone who paid the slightest bit of attention can shoot down in flames.

It's saying something when a fair proportion of our own fans, like yourself, hate him and want him to fail. One of only three managers who have ever won us the European Cup and you hate the bloke

So yes, we are a minority. You are a part of the herd, one of the sheep - which you're perfectly entitled to be.

[Shaggy]

Staggered.

You can't win Shaggy.

I'm flabbergasted that any LFC fan can have such an opinion about a manager that won us a European Cup and FA Cup. And brought us so many fantastic players. And made us the most feared side in Europe. And always treated the fans with the upmost respect. And came very close to winning the league.

But that isn't good enough for some.

It defies belief, it really and genuinely defies belief.

[PTP]

fight

[Rich]

fight

Not really it is just sad that any Liverpool fan can have such a poor opinion of a man that gave us our pride back.

[Lee]

It defies belief, it really and genuinely defies belief.

I get this so often, even with a couple of mates who are huge Reds.

I had a debate this week with an Arsenal fan when he laughed at my suggestion about Rafa replacing Wenger. I said to him that he's gone off the opinions of Sky, Sunday Supplement and the red tops and after listing off Rafa's achievements, signings and the ****storm that he had to put up with I was still looked at as if I was off my rocker.

It genuinely ****ing baffles me. But it's because people are too ****ing thick - or lazy - to watch the games and form their own opinions of the man.

[Alex]

Not really it is just sad that any Liverpool fan can have such a poor opinion of a man that gave us our pride back.

Thats it. I couldn't have said it better myself.

[Skrtelmania]

If Rafa replaced AVB in the very near future it would do huge damage in our bid to beat them to 4th place.

Hopefully they'll sack him at the end of the season and not give him the chance to properly rebuild them.