Manchester City

[SB]

I don’t think it will happen, but it should. We’ve all seen the emails between the club, the owners and the sponsors. We all know they cheated. They knew they were breaking the rules otherwise why would funds be transferred from owner to club via that route? They knew they were cheating.

I think the EPL will agree a punishment with them. They’ll make some noise for the cameras but they will have agreed to it beforehand. All about avoiding tens if not hundreds of millions in legal costs for the EPL.

It is the panel that set the punishment not the PL. If they appeal, a new panel will assess the verdict and punishment and provide a final position.


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[Sus]

They can be stripped of their titles and not be given to the runners up - that’s happened before in Italy

I wouldn’t want those titles added to our list - we didn’t win them, and we didn’t celebrate them

Would be the equivalent of stat padding

[Norbs]

They can be stripped of their titles and not be given to the runners up - that’s happened before in Italy

I wouldn’t want those titles added to our list - we didn’t win them, and we didn’t celebrate them

Would be the equivalent of stat padding

Yeah, it would be a bit hollow and doesn't really benefit us as Man U would've won the same many as us anyway

[Mark79]

**** it, I'd take them.

We've been robbed of being CL and PL double winners and a domestic treble.

Nothing can make up for not being able to have those moments or the celebrations, but at least the records and history books would be correct.

[Angryred]

So say if City do get stripped of the titles, would they have to reimburse the PL of their £££ winnings too?

[Cerbie]

Us, Man U, Arsenal and Spurs have reserved the right to seek compensation after the inquiry. We had to do it last November to avoid City being able to hide behind the statute of limitations in the UK.

[Norbs]

**** it, I'd take them.

We've been robbed of being CL and PL double winners and a domestic treble.

Nothing can make up for not being able to have those moments or the celebrations, but at least the records and history books would be correct.

Good point actually

[Sus]

**** it, I'd take them.

We've been robbed of being CL and PL double winners and a domestic treble.

Nothing can make up for not being able to have those moments or the celebrations, but at least the records and history books would be correct.

Hmm that’s a good way of looking at it actually as well

[Norbs]

Hmm that’s a good way of looking at it actually as well

Do you want to change your answer again?

[Exiled_red]

Not sure I would want them awarded to 2nd place, firstly the team in 2nd doesn't IMO always deserve it - if there is a run away leader the team in third may have other things to concentrate on in the latter stages of the season, drop points or rest players because of cup finals or latter stages of CL, we're there not a runaway leader 2nd and 3rd place are in a title race and things would likely play out differently in that case. Obviously there are cases where the 2nd place team clearly would have won e.g our 97 point 2nd place.

I agree with the comment about stat padding really, it would be nice for the players involved to get medals but as a fan it would be meaningless football is about the moments going back and saying that Rodgers won the title back in 2013-14 takes something away from the 2019-20 title and the celebrations of this one. It feels like creating a version of history which doesn't add up. E.g. had Rodgers won the League, he'd be unlikely to be sacked a year and a half later

[Mark79]

Not sure I would want them awarded to 2nd place, firstly the team in 2nd doesn't IMO always deserve it - if there is a run away leader the team in third may have other things to concentrate on in the latter stages of the season, drop points or rest players because of cup finals or latter stages of CL, we're there not a runaway leader 2nd and 3rd place are in a title race and things would likely play out differently in that case. Obviously there are cases where the 2nd place team clearly would have won e.g our 97 point 2nd place.

I agree with the comment about stat padding really, it would be nice for the players involved to get medals but as a fan it would be meaningless football is about the moments going back and saying that Rodgers won the title back in 2013-14 takes something away from the 2019-20 title and the celebrations of this one. It feels like creating a version of history which doesn't add up. E.g. had Rodgers won the League, he'd be unlikely to be sacked a year and a half later

I think that aspect is irrelevant in the scheme of things.

Though I think Rodgers would have been sacked even if he had won the title.

FSG and Rodgers always had a dysfunctional relationship and a title win wouldn’t have changed that dynamic.

Suarez would still have left for Barcelona.

The money would still have been largely squandered do to Rodgers being at odds with FSG’s recruitment structure.

We’d still have nose dived post title.

The man that FSG had hunted for years would still have become available in late 2015. It would have taken a very strong relationship with Rodgers for FSG not to have taken their chance to finally get their ideal manager, regardless of a title win the year previously.

[Sus]

Do you want to change your answer again?

Not this time - just appreciating a different point of view

[Exiled_red]

I think that aspect is irrelevant in the scheme of things.

Though I think Rodgers would have been sacked even if he had won the title.

FSG and Rodgers always had a dysfunctional relationship and a title win wouldn’t have changed that dynamic.

Suarez would still have left for Barcelona.

The money would still have been largely squandered do to Rodgers being at odds with FSG’s recruitment structure.

We’d still have nose dived post title.

The man that FSG had hunted for years would still have become available in late 2015. It would have taken a very strong relationship with Rodgers for FSG not to have taken their chance to finally get their ideal manager, regardless of a title win the year previously.

Maybe, maybe not, but if he had become the man who brought the league title back after nearly 25 years, he would be viewed alot differently by the fans, and that would certainly have made it more difficult to sack him regardless.

[Mark79]

Maybe, maybe not, but if he had become the man who brought the league title back after nearly 25 years, he would be viewed alot differently by the fans, and that would certainly have made it more difficult to sack him regardless.

FSG sacked the club’s greatest legend after winning them their first silverware as owners.

They wouldn’t have blinked at sacking Rodgers, even after a title.

[frank the tank]

Wonder would the likes of Rodgers come back and point to contract bonuses etc in the event of title wins. Some can of worms. But only fair..... especially when lfc themselves have the potential to come back for prize money. This could then lead lfc and others to come out and point at the lose revenue beyond tangiable prize money after winning a league.