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the only time hes been and had a run of games for 4 months sugguests otherwiseOriginally posted by Charly View PostI dont even think he is that good in the air.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5aHzVPtJRU"]Goodbye Andy Carroll "10-11 Goal with the Newcastle United FC" - YouTube[/ame]
and that woeful header in the euros
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A41JgVv3fgE"]Andy Carroll's Goal vs Sweden - YouTube[/ame]
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Yes if course it is. More accurately I should say he is a mediocre player at the top level of football and suited to a team with a more limited style of player and more limited ambitions.Originally posted by Alex View PostThat's rather hyperbolic language though. He's not ****, he has proven that by scoring goals. He wouldn't work for us because he is not flexible enough and is one dimensional. Think he'll have a decent career in mid table sides.
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Originally posted by Darth Marty View PostI once said he was destined to be the next Alan Shearer.
His hair has started to get shorter.....
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I am not saying he is a total right off in the air, just that he is not some kind of ball magnet when the cross comes in, and vastly overrated as a target man (in my opinion). Nice you tube footage, but I am sure someone could make Djimi Traore look like... Sami HyypiaOriginally posted by Liverpool View Postthe only time hes been and had a run of games for 4 months sugguests otherwise
and that woeful header in the euros

Obviously, going by the evidence of his time in a LFC shirt, he has not provided a decent ariel threat, and this is with the mighty Stewie Downing putting in tantalising crosses all day.
Even Owen scored some headers. The chances Carrroll has had he should have done much better with. Unfortunately, he will not fit into a system unless he plays centrally, as he does not have the qualities of a wider player.In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.
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How many starts did Carroll get?
What is the conversion rate of a good striker generally? Even Suarez misses a lot more than he scores, but a run of games bring increased chances of getting those goals and, surprise, they come..
I know Andy will not fit into the current system employed by BR, but I wish we employed more than one system of attack. As I said before, we are read before the whistle is blown.
But there you go...
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Sorry mate, but he is never good enough for any team with European aspersions. This season btw he has 2 goals in 10 starts and 2 in 14 overall.Originally posted by Icon View PostHow many starts did Carroll get?
What is the conversion rate of a good striker generally? Even Suarez misses a lot more than he scores, but a run of games bring increased chances of getting those goals and, surprise, they come..
I know Andy will not fit into the current system employed by BR, but I wish we employed more than one system of attack. As I said before, we are read before the whistle is blown.
But there you go...
Last season he got 21 starts for us and 4 goals in the league, he had 88 shots for those 4 goals. He also had 14 sub appearances.
That is a goal 4.5% of the time for Carroll, Suarez last season scored with 8.5% of his chances, this season Suarez scored with 12.7% of his chances.
Sterling also has a better chance conversion rate than Carroll at 5.5%.
All data is courtesy of ESPN Soccernet.Last edited by Mattshark; 03-02-13, 01:43 PM.
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