Joe Allen [Sold]

[danperkins]

El Bumpo!!

I thought we were on a winner when we signed Allen & his first 4 performances or so were impressive..... but since then he has been very poor. Start to wonder where else we could have spent that 15 million?

In a high tempo game were opposition close us down quickly and there is little time/space Allen looks panicked and uncomfortable. Also he is so lightweight and has got bounced around this season.

With Lucas nowhere near 100% and still finding his fitness and match sharpness, him and Allen look so vulnerable in the midfield. Whether Lucas will get back to his form previous to such a bad injury we just don't know. But Lucas & Allen in midfield just doesn't work.

As many have said and i agree... we need a ball winner. Some who is dogged,physically dominant and gives opposition no time on the ball. Make things much easier for a defence when a player like that is doing the dirty work in the midfield.

Really hope we address this problem. Regardless Allen IMO shouldn't be a starter, i'm not a Henderson fan but he is a better option at the moment. We need better than both in our first team.

[Tee]

El Bumpo!!

I thought we were on a winner when we signed Allen & his first 4 performances or so were impressive..... but since then he has been very poor. Start to wonder where else we could have spent that 15 million?

In a high tempo game were opposition close us down quickly and there is little time/space Allen looks panicked and uncomfortable. Also he is so lightweight and has got bounced around this season.

With Lucas nowhere near 100% and still finding his fitness and match sharpness, him and Allen look so vulnerable in the midfield. Whether Lucas will get back to his form previous to such a bad injury we just don't know. But Lucas & Allen in midfield just doesn't work.

As many have said and i agree... we need a ball winner. Some who is dogged,physically dominant and gives opposition no time on the ball. Make things much easier for a defence when a player like that is doing the dirty work in the midfield.

Really hope we address this problem. Regardless Allen IMO shouldn't be a starter, i'm not a Henderson fan but he is a better option at the moment. We need better than both in our first team.

Genuinely not sure what Allen offers us at the moment. Just shows how poor we are in that department that him and Henderson are getting games IMO. As you say, we need better, we really do. And just thinking about how that £15m could have been better used...we never learn our lessons.

[Chazza]

Obviously not playing anywhere near the form he showed when he first signed but is still up at the top of the possession win stats in the league.

http://www.eplindex.com/24347/premier-leagues-top-players-top-5-scorers-creators-passers.html/4

[Chris]

Boss player. Played very well v QPR and Sunderland recently, just a bit hot and cold at the moment which isnt that surprising given his age and the fact he's been going since mid July.

[Maxiedge]

Allen is a very good player (was easily our best player first 6 games of the season) who will come good again. Chill.

[Shaggy]

I like him a lot but £15m is starting to look way overpriced. I'm sure in a properly functioning midfield he'll be fine - our midfield just isn't working IMO, still. Definitely need more muscle in there.

[Corndog]

I still think that he will justify his price tag in the long run, lets not forget he was asked to cover lucas' role for much of the first half of the season, his sub appearance vs Sunderland was impressive as he was able to get forward more.

[Alex]

£40,000 a week isn't terrible either for someone who has started off on shaky ground.

[Rich]

Looking at how we set up, Rodgers goes for a deep midfielder, an attacking midfielder, with a third player moving between the two - sitting or getting forward as and when requried. Allen was bought for that third position IMO, however that is also Henderson's best position.

Which confirms that Rodgers didn't rate Henderson, brought his own player in, and has now realise that Jordan does offer something to the team - and should only get better. This leaves us with two potentially very good players fighting for one spot.

Great for a team with plenty of cash, not so good when we're watching the pennies.

And for all the slagging off Henderson has received it is worth pointing out that he was cheaper than Allen (at least as far as the upfront fee is concerned).

[ronanm]

Looking at how we set up, Rodgers goes for a deep midfielder, an attacking midfielder, with a third player moving between the two - sitting or getting forward as and when requried. Allen was bought for that third position IMO, however that is also Henderson's best position.

Which confirms that Rodgers didn't rate Henderson, brought his own player in, and has now realise that Jordan does offer something to the team - and should only get better. This leaves us with two potentially very good players fighting for one spot.

Great for a team with plenty of cash, not so good when we're watching the pennies.

And for all the slagging off Henderson has received it is worth pointing out that he was cheaper than Allen (at least as far as the upfront fee is concerned).

We're unlikely to meet any of the bonus payment clauses

[RedReet]

El Bumpo!!

I thought we were on a winner when we signed Allen & his first 4 performances or so were impressive..... but since then he has been very poor. Start to wonder where else we could have spent that 15 million?

In a high tempo game were opposition close us down quickly and there is little time/space Allen looks panicked and uncomfortable. Also he is so lightweight and has got bounced around this season.

With Lucas nowhere near 100% and still finding his fitness and match sharpness, him and Allen look so vulnerable in the midfield. Whether Lucas will get back to his form previous to such a bad injury we just don't know. But Lucas & Allen in midfield just doesn't work.

As many have said and i agree... we need a ball winner. Some who is dogged,physically dominant and gives opposition no time on the ball. Make things much easier for a defence when a player like that is doing the dirty work in the midfield.

Really hope we address this problem. Regardless Allen IMO shouldn't be a starter, i'm not a Henderson fan but he is a better option at the moment. We need better than both in our first team.

What, like Arsenal, United, Chelsea, City etc all have?

[Tee]

We need Xabi back basically.

[danperkins]

We need Xabi back basically.

[Cormack74]

Not a fan previously and he's done almost nothing to change my view.

£15m looks like being a steal . . . . . . . .






For Swansea.

[Nick77]

Not a fan previously and he's done almost nothing to change my view.

£15m looks like being a steal . . . . . . . .






For Swansea.

The £15 million could've been better spent elsewhere. Also I see more of a future at LFC for Henderson than Allen. The likes of Swansea is Allen's level, not LFC...