Not liking the reports coming out from Athens

[lfcruleus]

I had a real ticket, mate.

And hey you didnt need to buy a ticket you could have just gone with the express intention af getting in by any means without one, so you made a choice to do it legally, thousands didnt, Uefa beings kunts as you put it doesnt change that Im afraid.

[JohnnyLambert]

Good post insider!!

I agree policing was **** my mate got lifted on our first night for fighting with this absoloute greek **** who was lobbing bottles, but then he was back with us in half an hour, im not complaining but if your gonna cuff a lad and throw in the back of a van all lights blazing you expect more than a half hour bit of chit chat!!

Ticket allocation is the key Uefa need to pull their corporate finger out of their ****ty arses and sort this out!!

I was chattin to some clown who was there because he sold most Vodafones in a month at his shop and he's not even into footy. He met Aldo and co (he didn't know any of them) at a dinner the night before and had hospitality tickets to the game!! Real fans do not stand a chance!!

I'm fearing a city like Moscow next year wont be much better Athens and if its a high profile final god help the fans!!

[tomasjj]

So did I, but if you hadnt would you have ripped down fences, mugged fellow fans etc? morale decision really. To blame Uefa and the police takes the responsibility away from the dickheads

Of course I wouldn't have done those things.

As for you second statement - I understand what you are saying, but think it is a bit more complicated than that.

I respect your views though.

[lfcruleus]

Good post insider!!

I agree policing was **** my mate got lifted on our first night for fighting with this absoloute greek **** who was lobbing bottles, but then he was back with us in half an hour, im not complaining but if your gonna cuff a lad and throw in the back of a van all lights blazing you expect more than a half hour bit of chit chat!!

Ticket allocation is the key Uefa need to pull their corporate finger out of their ****ty arses and sort this out!!

I was chattin to some clown who was there because he sold most Vodafones in a month at his shop and he's not even into footy. He met Aldo and co (he didn't know any of them) at a dinner the night before and had hospitality tickets to the game!! Real fans do not stand a chance!!

I'm fearing a city like Moscow next year wont be much better Athens and if its a high profile final god help the fans!!

Not so many will go to Moscow if we get there because of this year, and if people think the Greek police were heavy handed god help them in Russia, I for one will not go to another European final until Uefa and our club find some way of sorting out the idiots.

[El Jefecito]

Good post insider!!

I agree policing was **** my mate got lifted on our first night for fighting with this absoloute greek **** who was lobbing bottles, but then he was back with us in half an hour, im not complaining but if your gonna cuff a lad and throw in the back of a van all lights blazing you expect more than a half hour bit of chit chat!!

Thats smart policing. It's called difusing a situation.

[lfcruleus]

Of course I wouldn't have done those things.

As for you second statement - I understand what you are saying, but think it is a bit more complicated than that.

I respect your views though.

I just am really furious about the entire thing, its gonna take me months to get over it, feel really let down as we are supposed to have the best fans in the world, that image is tarnished now.

[cobain]

Moscow is one of the most dangerous places for football and everyone know it. If the police is not on their toes, hell will brake lose. And I'm not talking about minor ****, there might be some killing involved. Russian hooligans aren't **** you know.

[lfcruleus]

Moscow is one of the most dangerous places for football and everyone know it. If the police is not on their toes, hell will brake lose. And I'm not talking about minor ****, there might be some killing involved. Russian hooligans aren't **** you know.

I hope we dont get there tbh. Rome wont be much better in 2 years as the locals dont like us much there either

[Kaip]

Every club has a dickhead element. We are from a big city, you only need to go to town on a Saturday night to see dickhead culture.
We have always had this element, when i used to go away in the 80s they were there. now they are there with thier kids. we are not unique in this, Everton, Man U, Man City, Tottenham etc etc have this dickhead element.
Its football culture, like it or not, they will always be there, so its up to UEFA and the like to make it impossible for them to get in without a ticket. In this case they never.
If we get to Wembly next year the dickhead element will go down to London but they wont be able to just walk in and prevent people with legit tickets getting in. Why? because its a proper football stadium not a feckin althletics stadium.

We can not stop dickheads travelling but UEFA can choose better venues.

Good post

[Kaip]

Moscow is one of the most dangerous places for football and everyone know it. If the police is not on their toes, hell will brake lose. And I'm not talking about minor ****, there might be some killing involved. Russian hooligans aren't **** you know.

Mates of mine who went to the russia / wales 1st leg euro play off can vouch for that.......some ruskie walked into a pub they were in and pointed a rocket launcher at em......... everyone hid behind the bar,as if that would help em

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Mates of mine who went to the russia / wales 1st leg euro play off can vouch for that.......some ruskie walked into a pub they were in and pointed a rocket launcher at em......... everyone hid behind the bar,as if that would help em

If it was a yank one then it would be guaranteed to hit the wrong target.

[Red_Polo]

If it was a yank one then it would be guaranteed to hit the wrong target.

French ones are even better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZPOfwVhokI

[disco]

Not saying we are completely innocents. We also have some kunts as fans, but the initial post is a gross simplification imo.
And takes it all out of context as well as UEFAs preperation AND the local police stewarding was amateurish to say the least.

Please bear in mind I was only saying what had been reported and was asking for people's views - it was a topic starter

[Red_hot]

Athens is a ****hole. That's all I have to say for the time being. I'm too tired to go into anything else.

[Red_hot]

Yes, and as I said above, everyone who didn't quite buy 'it was the polices fault for Hillsborough' had all there ****ing theories confirmed for them

I said exactly the same to Chris on the night! The game was horrible. Obviously the result didn't help but where we were there was fights kicking off all over the place between our own fans!!!!!!! There were nobheads everywhere. Blokes who had charged in having a go at old blokes, people fighting over whose seat it was, one bloke pissed over a girls foot who was sat next to us. ****ing horrible.

I personally disagree with anyone who condoned them charging the gates. When fans starting legging down the stairs by us and jumping all over the seats when they had rushed the gates it was ****ing scary. Whilst I think UEFA are to blame completely I still think that if you didn't have a ticket you should've stayed the **** away!! As wrong and as ****ty as it was that people didn't have tickets it didn't excuse how some behaved. I haven't been home long so haven't seen much news but I bet the Mancs etc have had a field day.