The Jewish Day of Atonement 1 Rafa 0

[JohnDoe]

Commitment to religion is okay until it doesn't piss off on my shoes.

Corrected.

[desertscouser]

Well who cares what you think dickhead.

Ouch. You've really hurt my feelings. :bird:

[Guest]

Corrected.

Whatever way you see it ... He's clearly hindering on Rafa's team selections though.

[Guest]

Ouch. You've really hurt my feelings. :bird:

I can see that as you keep coming.

[redblood]

People should be respected equally for their beliefs. If a Muslim has a problem with drinking alcohol, you don't force him to do it. If a Jewish has to pay his respects for the most holy day in his religion, you also have to respect that. If a guy doesn't give a **** about religion, you shouldn't force him to take part in it.

I'm not asking him to give up his beliefs and I do respect peoples beliefs but I don't see why they should be given special treatment.
If people don't want to be treated differently in a bad way then they shouldn't expect to be given special treatment in a good way.
I would not allow somebody special treatment becasue of their beliefs if they work for me then they get treated the same as everyone else race creed or colour.

[JohnDoe]

Whatever way you see it ... He's clearly hindering on Rafa's team selections though.

How would you feel if your working place forced you to stay in the office during Liverpool's Champions' League final, hindering your commitment to the club you love and follow?

[redblood]

The club signed Benayoun knowing he was Jewish. If they had a big problem with that they could have signed someone else. I don't see it any different than signing an African player, knowing he'll be unavailable during the African nation's cup due to his commitment to his country.

Why is that okay but commitment to religion isn't okay?

I actually don't think that is okay either.

[Parm]

well he's not in the squad today.

[JohnDoe]

I'm not asking him to give up his beliefs and I do respect peoples beliefs but I don't see why they should be given special treatment.
If people don't want to be treated differently in a bad way then they shouldn't expect to be given special treatment in a good way.
I would not allow somebody special treatment becasue of their beliefs if they work for me then they get treated the same as everyone else race creed or colour.

Special treatment for each person IS treating people equally, can't you see that?

If someone who applies for a job mentions his commitments outside of work and the boss hires him knowing that, he should respect them whatever they are. It's not just about religion.

[paulcooper4]

well he's not in the squad today.

chop his ****in foreskin off i say

[Parm]

chop his ****in foreskin off i say

you might be a bit late for that fella.....

[Guest]

How would you feel if your working place forced you to stay in the office during Liverpool's Champions' League final, hindering your commitment to the club you love and follow?

I would have no case to argue. I'll be reacting like a professional and be honoring my commitments vis a vis my employer.

Still, it's a weak comparison mate.

[jrd7]

This is my quote earlier in the thread:

That's exactly what religion does. It brainwashes people from an early age. All religion is a hurtful, controlling force. Ask Catholic believers about the guilt forced upon them by the priests they trust.

Religion affects evryone (directly or indirectly - 9/11 or 7/7 victims perhaps?)and has the potential to destroy everything, so while admitting to being a complete tree hugging hippie when it comes to my views, I will not give religion or anyone who defends it a minutes peace.

The man with his finger on more than enough nuclear weapons to "shock and awe" God himself, believes he was put there by The Lord our Saviour, the one, the only................Jehovah/Jaweh/Allah or just plain old God - the supernatural author with some interesting and favourable views on Genocide, Rape and Slavery.

[redblood]

How would you feel if your working place forced you to stay in the office during Liverpool's Champions' League final, hindering your commitment to the club you love and follow?

**** happens mate some people work outside office hours and it is not always possible to allow people to do what they want.
If you work in a particular environment that prevents you from doing certain things then tough **** you have to live with it that's your choice to be there.
It's not the clubs fault, if they didn't sign him because he was Jewish there would be up roar and rightly so.
Religion should not determine your ability to work or not work.

[paulcooper4]

you might be a bit late for that fella.....