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    Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
    The club has made CLEAR statements on the issues between Rafa and the owners. Why should they keep saying it everytime some nobhead journalist has run out of lies to make up?
    Their "clear" statements, from where I'm standing, have only muddied the waters and increased the speculation and cleared up nothing, which is why the speculation persists and there are several reports today in the Mirror, Times etc that Rafa is on the brink again. Almost makes me think there was an agenda against Rafa. To my mind, no official club statements have been released which declare unequivocal support for him, it is only subsequent reported comments from Gillett and Hicks which have backed him, and I think it is no coincidence that these happened after the fans' show of support for the manager.
    White liquid in a bottle = Milk

    Purslow = C*nt

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      Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
      Have you got any evidence that Rafa hasn't been backed?
      I can't say that £7m-£8m/window is to back a manager of a top club.

      I think that is evidence enough. This season is the first that he got more money to spend than that.
      Just believe and you never know what will happen.

      According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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        Brian Reade is by miles the best sports journo out there, and a red.

        But I can't agree with some of what he's saying.

        His article is mostly supposition, and that helps nobody.

        Let's see what happens between now and the summer.
        I hate Polanski

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          Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
          Their "clear" statements, from where I'm standing, have only muddied the waters and increased the speculation and cleared up nothing, which is why the speculation persists and there are several reports today in the Mirror, Times etc that Rafa is on the brink again. Almost makes me think there was an agenda against Rafa. To my mind, no official club statements have been released which declare unequivocal support for him, it is only subsequent reported comments from Gillett and Hicks which have backed him, and I think it is no coincidence that these happened after the fans' show of support for the manager.
          They have made clear statements that the perceived split between Rafa and the board was a misunderstanding and was blown out of proportion and is now resolved.

          What else do they need to say?

          Nothing, until some media hack comes along and stirs it all up again when we have a bad result.
          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
          (1995)
          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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            Originally posted by fredo View Post
            Let's let it at that mate. If we were gonna agree on anything the world would be boring.
            But your world is boring.
            .
            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



            May the Lord bless this post.

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              Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View Post
              Brian Reade is by miles the best sports journo out there, and a red.

              But I can't agree with some of what he's saying.

              His article is mostly supposition, and that helps nobody.

              Let's see what happens between now and the summer.
              If it's not something good coming from a journo you won't state that he's got it somewhat right in his article.

              But as you say, let's wait and see.

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                Originally posted by AFII View Post
                I can't say that £7m-£8m/window is to back a manager of a top club.

                I think that is evidence enough. This season is the first that he got more money to spend than that.
                You mean "no I haven't got any evidence"

                AFII, does it EVER, for one second, cross your mind that maybe, Jusssssst maybe, Rafa doesn't want to spend 30 million every window just for the sake of it.
                Maybe, jusssssst maybe, he only buys the players he wants for the right prices.

                Is that a possibility? Or does he want to spend 30 million every window?

                Also, any talk of past seasons are irrelevant as it was under a different ownership.
                Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                (1995)
                "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  But your world is boring.
                  I won't dispute that. Would you really think I would be sitting here debating stuffs with a Red Chilli, a Squint and a pseudo Neil Young ?

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                    Originally posted by fredo View Post
                    He isn't 'average' as you say it because he's playing for a top club and for a top coach. Every team needs it's unfashionable player, United had Phil Neville playing for them in midfield and they still won trophies galore.
                    Phil Neville wasn't a regular though and even when he did play he was surrounded by world class players. Kuyt does play regularly, cost £10million and isn't surrounded bu world class players, a few but not many.
                    "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
                    Tupac

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                      Originally posted by fredo View Post
                      I won't dispute that. Would you really think I would be sitting here debating stuffs with a Red Chilli, a Squint and a pseudo Neil Young ?
                      Yes.
                      .
                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                      May the Lord bless this post.

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                        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                        Yes.

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                          Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                          They have made clear statements that the perceived split between Rafa and the board was a misunderstanding and was blown out of proportion and is now resolved.

                          What else do they need to say?

                          Nothing, until some media hack comes along and stirs it all up again when we have a bad result.
                          Here's what they officially said:-

                          On 22/11/07
                          "We made a significant investment in the playing squad during the summer and desperately want this team to succeed.

                          "There are some very important games coming up in the next couple of weeks and all of us need to focus on winning those games and getting the best out of the players we already have at the club.

                          "We will leave any talk of buying or selling players until we come across to Liverpool in December and sit down with the Manager then."
                          On 25/11/07

                          "Despite speculation in today's newspapers, there is nothing new to say.

                          "We had a good win yesterday and have got some very important games coming up starting with Porto on Wednesday, followed by Bolton and Reading, before Marseille and Manchester United in a few weeks.

                          "Both of us, together with Chief Executive Rick Parry, plan to meet with Rafa when we come over mid December to make decisions on the team's requirements at that time."
                          On 16/12/07

                          A meeting was held this evening involving Tom Hicks, George Gillett, Foster Gillett, Rick Parry and Rafa Benitez which was wide ranging and positive.

                          The discussions were amicable and constructive. All those present are united in their desire to bring further success to the club.
                          None of those statements makes it clear that they support Rafa and that he's the one they want managing the club going forward. Now are you surprised that the media hacks keep stirring things up everytime we have a bad result? I'm not, and I bet the club aren't either.
                          White liquid in a bottle = Milk

                          Purslow = C*nt

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                            Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
                            Here's what they officially said:-

                            On 22/11/07


                            On 25/11/07



                            On 16/12/07



                            None of those statements makes it clear that they support Rafa and that he's the one they want managing the club going forward. Now are you surprised that the media hacks keep stirring things up everytime we have a bad result? I'm not, and I bet the club aren't either.

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                              Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
                              None of those statements makes it clear that they support Rafa and that he's the one they want managing the club going forward. Now are you surprised that the media hacks keep stirring things up everytime we have a bad result? I'm not, and I bet the club aren't either.
                              We're not talking about "supporting the manager" we're talking about this perceived split between the manager and the owners and the fact that the media keep stirring it up.
                              Also we're talking about these claims that Rafa's been frozen out and has no idea how much money he has to spend. All specualtion/lies
                              Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                              (1995)
                              "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                                One, two, three, four...

                                Round and round and round we spin,
                                To weave a wall to hem us in,
                                It won't be long.
                                It won't be long.

                                How slow and slow and slow it goes,
                                To mend the tear that always shows.
                                It won't be long.
                                It won't be long.

                                It's hard enough losin'
                                the paper illusion
                                you've hidden inside,
                                Without the confusion
                                of findin' you're usin'
                                the crutch of a lie
                                To shelter your eye when you cry.

                                Round and round and round we spin,
                                To weave a wall to hem you in.
                                It won't be long.
                                It won't be long.

                                How slow and slow and slow it goes,
                                To mend the tear that always shows.
                                It won't be long.
                                It won't be long.

                                Now you're movin' too slow
                                and wherever you go
                                there's another beside.
                                It's so hard to say no
                                to yourself and it shows
                                that you're losing inside,
                                When you step on your pride and you cry.

                                Round and round and round we spin,
                                To weave a wall to hem us in.
                                It won't be long.
                                It won't be long.

                                How slow and slow and slow it goes,
                                To mend the tear that always shows.
                                It won't be long.
                                It won't be long.

                                How the hours will bend
                                through the time that you spend
                                till you turn to your eyes,
                                And you see your best friend
                                looking over the end
                                and you turn to see why,
                                And he looks in your eyes and he cries.

                                Round and round and round we spin,
                                To weave a wall to hem us in,
                                It won't be long.
                                It won't be long.


                                Thank you all very much.
                                .
                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                                May the Lord bless this post.

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