Sack Him..... or don't

[Craig_H]

The way we're playing now is something of a misnomer and not a true reflection of our style under Rafa IMO. It is clear to me that the weight of pressure of speculation surrounding the manager is having a destabilising affect, and the players seem to have fallen foul to it as well. Have you ever seen us play with such indifference?

As for Chelsea, they may have on occasion played good stuff, but I still think we consistently played better football than them and in this case I agree with Shaggy. Robben spent most of his time on the treatment table, SWP on the bench and how many times did Mourinho criticise Joe Cole for being too attacking and neglecting his defensive duties?

One thing that I most detested about Mourinho's teams were the cynical antics. He had all the ****ers at it, Carvalho with his sneaky pushes and handballs, Essien with his over the ball challenges, Robben with his play acting, Terry's thuggery etc. I have no doubts that Mourinho encouraged that. Rafa has far too much dignity and integrity to try and win like that. that's why I want Rafa to stay and why I want Mourinho nowhere near us, ever.

We could do laps with this one mate, but i think each knows the other's opinion and respects, without agreeing with it.

[Craig_H]

No. Questions need to be asked about why Parry, Gillett and Hicks are trying to make it so difficult for Rafa to do his job.

Whatever they're doing, he should still be able to guide us to being miles ahead of that trio of also-rans...and with his eyes closed if i'm being honest.

[Dhav]

I honestly think people take the Mourinho antics far too seriously.

But each to their own.

The diving, cheating, thuggery? And that's just his team. Then you have him making scandalous comments about other managers (Wenger a "voyeur", why he never sued the weasel is beyond me), the ambulance service attending to Cech at Reading, telling our fans to sush in Cardiff, telling Carra to **** off at the same match, years later still whinging about Garcia's goal in the CL semi.

And that's just off the top of my head. I dont think it's possible to go overboard about these antics. I can't imagine there's ever been anyone in the game as outspoken as him, and who so flies in the face of the traditional Liverpool principles. He is the anti-football. And I want him nowhere near our club.

[paulcooper4]

What's the use of having the world's blowjob champion as a bird, if she'll only go down twice a year?

great line

[Dhav]

Whatever they're doing, he should still be able to guide us to being miles ahead of that trio of also-rans...and with his eyes closed if i'm being honest.

Actually DJS I agree with you that currently he is not doing a good enough job. But I'm cutting him slack because of the extraordinary conditions he's working under. It's a disgrace. I hope Rafa sticks it out, and instead of these cunts employing these devious tactics to force him to quit, have the nerve to sack him instead if that's what you want, and pay him the £6m he is due under his contract as well. I'd sooner the yanks go than Rafa. At least he has the best interests of the club at heart. These clowns don't care, they dont care about our heritage and principles. They are turning our club into a media circus, something that will be compounded if they sack Rafa for Mourinho.

[Dhav]

We could do laps with this one mate, but i think each knows the other's opinion and respects, without agreeing with it.

[Craig_H]

The diving, cheating, thuggery? And that's just his team. Then you have him making scandalous comments about other managers (Wenger a "voyeur", why he never sued the weasel is beyond me), the ambulance service attending to Cech at Reading, telling our fans to sush in Cardiff, telling Carra to **** off at the same match, years later still whinging about Garcia's goal in the CL semi.

And that's just off the top of my head. I dont think it's possible to go overboard about these antics. I can't imagine there's ever been anyone in the game as outspoken as him, and who so flies in the face of the traditional Liverpool principles. He is the anti-football. And I want him nowhere near our club.

Diving is something virtually every club does. Us included.

The wenger comments - silly but only words. No real harm done.

The ambulance thing, i'm not privvy to the facts.

The shush thing - part and parcel. No worse than us claiming that Gary Neville shags his mum up the ****ter Same with telling carra to **** off. The whinging about garcia's goal is just funny. Harmless and comical.

As i said, each to his own. You say he flies in the face of traditional LFC principles - i say he's a winner and that's one of our principles.

Shanks was highly outspoken, sure you'll claim he didnt do some of the things JM did and you'd be right, but he was as outspoken as you can find.

[Revo]

i will support any manager of this club when appointed regardless of previous thoughts about him but to start calling for sackings of rafa mid season will not be tolerated. i can also imagine the special ones spin if appointed, what he would say when asked about the ball that never crossed the line

[paulcooper4]

Only because i think he'll turn us into champions. I dont have any fondness for him. I dont hate him either though. He's just Mourinho.

Do you think he is the only person in the world that can make us champions? If I thought he was then I would probably grudgingly go along with you.

But thing is, he isnt, and you know that. So I genuinely dont understand why you are blowing his trumpet from every hilltop when he is so universally despised by more or less every other liverpool fan for his continual lacks of respect against our club, not to mention other matters such as being proven time and again to be a compulsive liar that isnt even clever enough to hide his tracks.

[Craig_H]

Actually DJS I agree with you that currently he is not doing a good enough job. But I'm cutting him slack because of the extraordinary conditions he's working under. It's a disgrace. I hope Rafa sticks it out, and instead of these cunts employing these devious tactics to force him to quit, have the nerve to sack him instead if that's what you want, and pay him the £6m he is due under his contract as well. I'd sooner the yanks go than Rafa. These clowns are turning our club into a media circus, something that will be compounded if they sack Rafa for Mourinho.

I dont like the yanks and i'd rather they didnt own us.

As for Rafa, i'll cut him some slack for not being on United's coat tails, as there seem to be mitigating circumstances.

You cant cut him slack for being at the level of City, Villa and Everton though. We should NEVER be THAT low.

[Craig_H]

Do you think he is the only person in the world that can make us champions? If I thought he was then I would probably grudgingly go along with you.

But thing is, he isnt, and you know that. So I genuinely dont understand why you are blowing his trumpet from every hilltop when he is so universally despised by more or less every other liverpool fan for his continual lacks of respect against our club, not to mention other matters such as being proven time and again to be a compulsive liar that isnt even clever enough to hide his tracks.

Firstly, i dont despise him. I dont feel anything for him.

Secondly, i dont even know if he'd win us the title. I think he would, but obviously none of us KNOW for sure.

I think he's the best equipped candidate and the most likely to make us champions.

[Craig_H]

i will support any manager of this club when appointed regardless of previous thoughts about him but to start calling for sackings of rafa mid season will not be tolerated. i can also imagine the special ones spin if appointed, what he would say when asked about the ball that never crossed the line

What do you think he'd say Kev?

[Revo]

What do you think he'd say Kev?

i think hed say coops and revo are right, im a cunt

[paulcooper4]

i think hed say coops and revo are right, im a cunt

[Craig_H]