Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[kurtangle01]

Not true, if Moores picked up the phone to DIC and said, "look la, it's the law over ere" then we would have been fine, instead we have direct quotes from DIC saying, they were leaving messages, agreed deadlines came and went and nobody was replying.

DIC have even stated on record that their senior people needed to know if it was a deal so they could book the press conference flights. They've also said repeatedly that they wanted to invest in the stadium and the team. We would have been paid for by DIC, we would have paid for the stadium, they would have supported us with assistance for players during the stadium build. We would then have been made for life by 2010 (which was their stadium completion date pledge incase you didn't remember).

Yes, I do remember all that. Communication was obviously a problem between both parties but that's never been Rick Parry or David Moores strong point.

What went on and why they courted Hicks & Gillett, other than having to legally do it, is anyones guess. I'm not privy to all the ins and outs but they made a decision, for better or worse, and whether we like it or not now we're stuck with it...for the forseeable future at least.

[sonsofthedesert]

Yeh but they've gone back on their word before man, it's not good enough. That's why people are so upset can't you see that!

I was willing to give them a chance but they've lied and gone behind the manager and the fans back. Mate, that is not the way to go about business.

I have been upset, if you read all my posts and even ask the likes of Tom you will find out I have been really pissed off, but if they want to kee the club there is nothing we can do about it except actions that will hurt the thng we want to protect and I am not willing to go that far.

[disco]

For god's sake they have a built stadium bringing in millions every week. It'll be 2012 before we see ours. In the meantime we'll be paying more in interest alone on the loans than we normally make in a financial year.

120m to Jun 06, presumably even more last year with CL final. Same or more this year with TV money. How on earth did you calculate such large interest payments?!

They've obviously done the maff and think it's viable.

If it's not, they'll sell.

[AFII]

We feel your pain Liverpool!!!

Friday, December 28th, 2007 by liverdamage


We really tried to warn you Liverpool… not that it would have mattered much, it was going to happen one way or another. Maybe the shock wouldn’t have been so bad if word had made its way across the pond. Your love was going to be marginalized into a billionaire’s profit margin whether you liked it or not.

Apparently thousands of fans protesting in the streets (old news) and an open letter documenting the disgust of the 8 month history and his ownership’s P.R. lies (new link) has proved to be effective on the money grubbing *******… not in the productive way though… you guess it, we’ve got another gold inappropriate quote to add to the list of gems spewed from this asshole’s mouth. Liverpool, I’ll get to his response to you… but 1st lets play follow the quotes:

When Tom Hicks started “losing” money because of his bad decisions, Tom Hicks tried his best to cut his monetary losses at the expense of the Texas Rangers. He tries to trade A-Rod but finds no immediate success. He settles our fan outrage about attempting to give away our best player and league MVP by telling us “Obviously, absolutely there are no trade talks and this trade has been put to bed. We are in a go-forward position with Alex. He is here for seven years and we will go forward.”

This, of course, would be a blatant LIE to the fans as 2 weeks later A-Rod is dumped to New York… this of course will allow the Texas Rangers “Financial flexibility” to acquire new top tier talent. 4 years later, this “Financial flexibility” has produced exactly 1 multiyear free agent signing: the incredibly average Kevin Millwood.

After the Rangers fans catch onto the “Financial flexibility” lie, we’re told the honest truth… after all, redundant 4th place finishes in a 4 team division requires something to give the fans hope: “if our revenue grows in the off-season, our payroll will grow with it.” WHAT?!? Let me get this correct… the fans need to support a historically bad franchise and if we improve profit margins, THEN the ownership will make the monetary investment it requires to acquire top level talent. Investing would be the wrong word here… excess profit reallocation would be a better term.

It’s OK though, in Tom Hick’s mind: “You don’t even have to win a championship every year to draw the fans. You just have to show you’re really trying.” More 4th place finishes and a lowered payroll would certainly indicate that ownership isn’t trying… but there is no significant drop in attendance. So Tom Hicks is once again proven wrong… you don’t need to pretend you’re trying to win. I’m so glad he came to this epiphany, but I’m even more happy he decided to tell us about it: “This business has to do with fan affinity and brand devotion. It doesn’t necessarily have to do with winning.”

OK, so to maximize the sports profitability, Tom Hicks will need to get some fan affinity… lets see, we’ve tried building it around a frugal losing team and that didn’t work… how could Mr. Hicks possibly get some “fan affinity and brand devotion”? Developing a winner seems to difficult and risky… I know, BUY A LEGENDARY FRANCHISE THAT ALREADY HAS THOSE QUALITIES!!! Hey, soccer is the worlds biggest sport with the most rabid fans. Tom Hicks can purchase one of the best clubs in history, Liverpool!

Ya know what would be great Mr. Hicks? If you told us all about how smart you are to buy these prepackaged fans: “There’s no way either of my two teams’ fans have the level of intense passion that Liverpool has. I want them to. Hopefully, someday they will.” That will make all us in Dallas really want to be bigger fans and spend more money on your losers!

So now Tom Hicks has it all, a franchise “with fan affinity and brand devotion. It doesn’t necessarily have to do with winning.” Whats this?!? Liverpool fans are interested in something that has to do with winning? Maybe its time to rethink this purchasing a prepackaged fanbase… “Hicks could have purchased Dallas’ MLS franchise but decided not to. ‘In hindsight, I probably made the wrong decision,’ he said.“. That’ll make ya feel better Liverpool fans, your new owner is now thinking he’d rather have purchased a running punchline in Dallas than your franchise.

Liverpool faithful: I invite you to “The Tom Hicks Era”

http://ickscorner.wordpress.com/2007...ain-liverpool/

[jrd7]

You really think success on the pitch is a priority for them? Look at how their American sports franchises are performing, including the ones who have had or are having new stadiums built, and then tell me if you agree with that. Sporting success is low on their list of priorities.

****ing right. Apologist arseholes.

We all want to see the best in people but after all the lying about financing, for which their are direct quotes from Hicks and Gillett them****ingselves about it, can you really see these guys making us pay for their purchase then plouging thier own cash in for players, club development?

It's simply illogical, captain

[kurtangle01]

You really think success on the pitch is a priority for them? Look at how their American sports franchises are performing, including the ones who have had or are having new stadiums built, and then tell me if you agree with that. Sporting success is low on their list of priorities.

With their plans CL qualification will be a must so it's in their best interests to pay attention to the playing side.

[Kilteragh]

f Moores picked up the phone to DIC and said, "look la, it's the law over ere" then we would have been fine,

If Moores had to tell them that, they would not be the international success story and would have no business running a club.

Do you honestly think they wouldn't know "how things work"?

This grass is greener **** is really naive.

[sonsofthedesert]

Here's where we need an accountant, but most of the debt payments are at Kop Holdings Level. They need dividends from the club to do this, or in other words the club has to make a profit. That's not going to be significant until the new stadium is built, so they'll have to pay for interest payments out of their own funds (or more likely take out new loans to cover the payments).

Oh, to see the latest set of accounts!

This point about the structure of loan is significant for me as I am sure they will not be able to take dividend if the club doesn't make a profit so how will they pay it?
As Radar has said to make money, not just on the pitch but from marketing (as it improves) they will need the club to be succesful so will have to invest in players. Also to get the best deal for naming rights of the new stadium the club will need to be on top or near on the pitch. I would love to know how they plan to do all this as at the moment it doesn't seem to add up but to them and the banks it does. Confusing.

[andyhanrahan]

Will any liverpool fans do a united and set up a supporters club in protest ( i think they called it f.c united).

[Kilteragh]

Will any liverpool fans do a united and set up a supporters club in protest ( i think they called it f.c united).

There are definitely some sad enough to attempt it.

[AFII]

I think the most interesting point is that DIC have more or less not said anything at all. Why?

Surely they would have put an end to all the speculation days ago if they had no interest at all. The only thing they have said about it was a comment that they can't comment at this stage.

I think that they can't comment if they are in discussions with G&H about buying the club. That would be breaking the law.

You can't give out inside information or comment when you are in discussions to buy a club or a company if I remember things right.

[disco]

I think the most interesting point is that DIC have more or less not said anything at all. Why?

Surely they would have put an end to all the speculation days ago if they had no interest at all. The only thing they have said about it was a comment that they can't comment at this stage.

I think that they can't comment if they are in discussions with G&H about buying the club. That would be breaking the law.

You can't give out inside information or comment when you are in discussions to buy a club or a company if I remember things right.

The shares aren't traded, so I doubt it.

Probably want to keep things quiet.

[sonsofthedesert]

I'm probably one of the most positive in here right now.

True but my point was you would be the one that would love to start your own team, you could be cheif scout.

[AFII]

True but my point was you would be the one that would love to start your own team, you could be cheif scout.

Will never happen.

I love Liverpool and will continue to do so whatever pricks that owns it.

[sonsofthedesert]

Will never happen.

I love Liverpool and will continue to do so whatever pricks that owns it.

Good attitude mate, couple of people who say they can't support the team anymore should read that and feel ashamed.