Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[Manofthebog]

For god's sake they have a built stadium bringing in millions every week. It'll be 2012 before we see ours. In the meantime we'll be paying more in interest alone on the loans than we normally make in a financial year.

People tend to forget United had a 70,000 seater stadium already in existance, we're years away from getting one, AFTER paying for it to be built.

[jrd7]

If Moores hadn't considered their bid he could potentially have been sued by the shareholders for not considering the higher offer. If he had accepted the DIC offer of £1500 less per share he could have found himself having to pay a lot of cash back.

DIC had to sit tight then and wait for an answer but the chose to walk away. I have no doubt that, if their interest this time was real, that they'll come back if and when the time is right.

Not true, if Moores picked up the phone to DIC and said, "look la, it's the law over ere" then we would have been fine, instead we have direct quotes from DIC saying, they were leaving messages, agreed deadlines came and went and nobody was replying.

DIC have even stated on record that their senior people needed to know if it was a deal so they could book the press conference flights. They've also said repeatedly that they wanted to invest in the stadium and the team. We would have been paid for by DIC, we would have paid for the stadium, they would have supported us with assistance for players during the stadium build. We would then have been made for life by 2010 (which was their stadium completion date pledge incase you didn't remember).

[sonsofthedesert]

firm (blue chip) i worked for got a hostile take over - and how they pay for it - they borrowed more money then they were worth against the new buisness -

that's buisness - if they hadn't likley hood would be both could of gone under

these 2 yanks may not be the most savvy re handling football managers and us fans but when it comes to buisness there're going to have much more about them than anyone here.

For them to make money they will know they have to fill the stadium - they are on a learning curve and money can help teach people things quickly.

What ever thier buisness plan for us being successful on the pitch will be part of it.

As said thier handling of Rafa is shocking - but lets see what the next few months have in stall.

Don;t see many united fans complaining avbout Glaiser these days and their debt is massive compare to ours.

I think part of the reason they ****ed with Rafa is because they thought that we should be top of the league with the team we have, they wanted everything great instanty. They have now learned that it will take mre money and a bit mre time. Still makes them thick as **** and they have caused more problems on the pitch. The best thing is for them to **** off but they wont, we are stuck with them so we best hope their plan is to make us great on the pitch and build the new stadium.

[vantage]

I'm sure I have read somewhere in the last 100 odd pages that before G&H would sell, the loan would be approved AND the stadium announced.....

Or did I dream that, cos I ain't going back through this lot. I'm not sure that the 'GAME OVER' has appeared yet.

[Dhav]

firm (blue chip) i worked for got a hostile take over - and how they pay for it - they borrowed more money then they were worth against the new buisness -

that's buisness - if they hadn't likley hood would be both could of gone under

these 2 yanks may not be the most savvy re handling football managers and us fans but when it comes to buisness there're going to have much more about them than anyone here.

For them to make money they will know they have to fill the stadium - they are on a learning curve and money can help teach people things quickly.

What ever thier buisness plan for us being successful on the pitch will be part of it.

As said thier handling of Rafa is shocking - but lets see what the next few months have in stall.

Don;t see many united fans complaining avbout Glaiser these days and their debt is massive compare to ours.

You really think success on the pitch is a priority for them? Look at how their American sports franchises are performing, including the ones who have had or are having new stadiums built, and then tell me if you agree with that. Sporting success is low on their list of priorities.

[Kilteragh]

Start praying.

But should we bog ourselves down in the doom and depressing gloom and go around looking for people to blame or should we see what happens next?

Interesting to see what the Yanks do next. Some large-scale bridge-building is well overdue. Here's hoping.

[sonsofthedesert]

You're right it was £500 more per share. I've edited the original post.

£500 isn't much if you owned one or two share but I'd imagine someone like Steve Morgan would have had something to say about missing out on all that cash for his shares.

That dick would have done smething stupid.
Zowie who posts on This is Anfield owned 1 share that she bought for £4500, when it was sold to G&H for £5000 she complained to everyone that would listen (not on the boards) that she was annoyed that was all she got for it, she wanted more profit. Even the single share holders can be greedy.

[redlancer]

The players they've already bought for us, are now being paid for by the club loans they've taken out. they've not spent 1 pence on this ****ing club and you apologist ****ers are already saying wait and see. It's not half, they've split the loan between, us and......................erm.............Us. Kop Football loans will be paid for by the club. they've split the amounts, but Kop Football will be paid dividend to pay for their half of the proposed loans.

I'm shocked at the easing of attitudes I've seen over the last day or so. Waiting and seeing is what the scum did and they can afford their loans and players, we'll have the same size loan as them when the 300 million stadium is being paid for and we earn a **** load less. they want the stadium completed with a minimal expense to be able to sell at a premium price. That much now seems clear. as long as we're in the division then prem money covers their loans.

Does that not shock you a little?

If we're the best team in the land we'll be worth a billion, if we're a mid tabled team waiting for the right investor to match our history then we'll be worth 700ish?

Either way, not a bad way to earn 350million for a £0 investment, is it?

if we're mid table we'll be worth £700m - rubbish we'll be worthless very soon.

as for players bought for us already aid for by the club - isn't that the way to run a buisness? It may have gone unoticed but they didn't or don't want Rafa ergo they are hardly likley to spend money on his players.

the Rafa situation is the one that stinks for me - financing etc i'd expect nothing else TBO is buisness. You mention scum they were in a much bette rposition than us re finance and profits yet still end up massivley in debt, but still buy the players and win the league.

If you ever looked at Liverpools books you wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
If we hadn't of gone to finals in the recent years I'd recon we'd be ****ed now. So although i aint happy i think we are in a better position than this time last year

[jrd7]

Don't attempt to tell me what I'm thinking mate. They ****ed Rafa over and i hate then for that.

How they finance the club if we end up being successful is for them to decide. Do you honestly think a sugardaddy was going to arrive with pots of cash and spend endlessly? Welcome to the real world.

Didn't want or expect a sugar daddy. I expected for whoever bought us to pay for the club with their money, we pay for the stadium, help us with players for a couple of years then sit back and watch the packed new stadium and increased revenues roll in.

We've already paid for this club once, remember?

I wouldn't even attempt to tell you what you're thinking, because that would mean sharing your thoughts and I'm glad I don't. That is not a personal attack on you, it's my side of the argument and I feel a very valid one. I have no problem with us buying the stadium, just not the club (again) and the stadium

[Slinky Skills]

This is all we can do now. See what the plans are, if good make sure they stick to it and hold them to all promises. If they are bad, go from there. We just have to wait and see.

Yeh but they've gone back on their word before man, it's not good enough. That's why people are so upset can't you see that!

I was willing to give them a chance but they've lied and gone behind the manager and the fans back. Mate, that is not the way to go about business.

[Alpha]

It will be interesting to read what the DIC-friendly journo's write about this refinancing.

If it becomes apparent that DIC have pulled out, the fans will become more resigned to a future under the Americans and if not soften towards them, at least start to accept our fate.

DIC may try to keep the hostility level high.

[disco]

Here's where we need an accountant, but most of the debt payments are at Kop Holdings Level. They need dividends from the club to do this, or in other words the club has to make a profit. That's not going to be significant until the new stadium is built, so they'll have to pay for interest payments out of their own funds (or more likely take out new loans to cover the payments).

Oh, to see the latest set of accounts!

[Radar]

You really think success on the pitch is a priority for them? Look at how their American sports franchises are performing, including the ones who have had or are having new stadiums built, and then tell me if you agree with that. Sporting success is low on their list of priorities.

You can't compare the two. You don't have to have a successful team in US sports to make money. Look at my Redskins...They have made playoff's 3 times in the last 12 years yet are #1 or #2 richest teams. Baseball you can't get relegated and they revenue share plus they have deals setup with the local tv/radio markets. Hockey is the same.

The Dallas area supports 4 pro teams plus college teams.

What I am trying to say is they will have to make sporting success very high on there list with Liverpool.

[sonsofthedesert]

Didn't want or expect a sugar daddy. I expected for whoever bought us to pay for the club with their money, we pay for the stadium, help us with players for a couple of years then sit back and watch the packed new stadium and increased revenues roll in.

We've already paid for this club once, remember?

I wouldn't even attempt to tell you what you're thinking, because that would mean sharing your thoughts and I'm glad I don't. That is not a personal attack on you, it's my side of the argument and I feel a very valid one. I have no problem with us buying the stadium, just not the club (again) and the stadium

I think we know everyone on here wants them out so don't question this of me BUT don't all the articles state that the purchase debt is not on the club, infact it is going to be in exactly the same place it was in March 2007, it will not move, just stadium, player and previous debt will be on the club.

[Kilteragh]

You can't compare the two. You don't have to have a successful team in US sports to make money. Look at my Redskins...They have made playoff's 3 times in the last 12 years yet are #1 or #2 richest teams. Baseball you can't get relegated and they revenue share plus they have deals setup with the local tv/radio markets. Hockey is the same.

The Dallas area supports 4 pro teams plus college teams.

What I am trying to say is they will have to make sporting success very high on there list with Liverpool.