Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[Roboklopp]

Before anybody gets too down in the dumps and gives up hope of a possible takeover, just think about this.....

With this new loan there will be repayments of in the region of £40m per year and these repayments will have to come from G&H personally as untill the ground is ready we're not going to make any money. G&H have already proven that they're unwilling to put their hands in their own pockets and if the reports are to be believed Gillett in particular has had difficulties raising the small amount of cash needed to secure the loan.

Im pretty confident that G&H aren't cash rich enough to meet these repayments for a sustained period and even if they were i don't think they'd be willing to put much of their own cash into the club. Its clear with whats gone on of late that they're open to a sale and imo all the refinance has done is given them more time to negotiate a better deal for themselves.

Swat i was saying earlier (in hope rather than belief to be honest). THey'll have to transfer assets somehow.

[Sarb]

A lot of peope are blaming anyone and everyone they can think of and have no clue what they are talking about.

Where have you been for the past year? He sold to clear the debts but sold to a pair of cocks who put 4 times as much debt on the club. He and Parry ****ed around with DIC in the first place.

Moores got more millions from G&H. What else do you want to know?

[Dhav]

Before anybody gets too down in the dumps and gives up hope of a possible takeover, just think about this.....

With this new loan there will be repayments of in the region of £40m per year and these repayments will have to come from G&H personally as untill the ground is ready we're not going to make any money. G&H have already proven that they're unwilling to put their hands in their own pockets and if the reports are to be believed Gillett in particular has had difficulties raising the small amount of cash needed to secure the loan.

Im pretty confident that G&H aren't cash rich enough to meet these repayments for a sustained period and even if they were i don't think they'd be willing to put much of their own cash into the club. Its clear with whats gone on of late that they're open to a sale and imo all the refinance has done is given them more time to negotiate a better deal for themselves.

I think not qualifying for the CL (may be a couple of years in a row) is probably our only chance of getting the lying *******s out within the next 5 years

[Cormack74]

Can someone answer me a pretty fundamental question ?:

Why do G&H want to retain their interest in the club if they really do have an offer on the table from DIC ?

Ok the simple answer is that they want to make money out of the club. However it appears they're putting themselves through a fair amount of hassle for unknown financial gain reliant upon a significant number of variable factors.

Wouldn't it just be easier to take £50m profit (or whatever the figure is) and walk away now rather than saddling themselves (the club) with debt, and hoping that on the field, levels of success (despite a tight player budget) will be sufficient to ensure that a new enlarged stadium is regularly filled and the corporate hospitality packages sold ?

Maybe G&H are gamblers but I know which option I'd prefer ?

Or did I miss something ? Maybe someone can tell me.

[Joe King]

G&H have started to lube up so they can start to **** us over.

Rafa going will be in the summer will be like losing a limb of a body at Liverpool Football Club.

[Kilteragh]

Where have you been for the past year? He sold to clear the debts but sold to a pair of cocks who put 4 times as much debt on the club. He and Parry ****ed around with DIC in the first place.

Moores got more millions from G&H. What else do you want to know?

Nobody was complaining until they ****ed Rafa over. Debt on the club was probably an inevitability no matter who took over, given the money that we need to spend.

[wavydavy]

You're telling me he didn't know he was selling to a couple of cocks with no money who were taking out this debt? If he didn't then the guy is a fool for selling without researching. If he did, then he's a greedy fool

Is that a good enough reason to blame him? Because a lot of us do to be honest

Hear hear. He's a ****ing multi-millionaire businessman and I'm not. I wouldnt (and can't) be trusted to put out the blue ****ing wheely bin every other Tuesday. It's true what is said about people who inherit wealth as opposed to those who generate wealth themselves.

[jrd7]

Swat i was saying earlier (in hope rather than belief to be honest). THey'll have to transfer assets somehow.

why are they paying £40 million all of a sudden, when there are dividends to be paid to them first. the money we make will there or thereabouts cover their payments, don't worry about that. It's every other side of the club that has no money to go towards it.

They wouldn't have agreed to any loan where part of the money is ordinarily paid by them, only if the club were suddenly unable to meet those payments.

What do you think would happen first? A player sale or those cunts paying themselves?

You were very hopeful mate, I'll give you that, but it's just not realistic

[Dhav]

Can someone answer me a pretty fundamental question ?:

Why do G&H want to retain their interest in the club if they really do have an offer on the table from DIC ?

Ok the simple answer is that they want to make money out of the club. However it appears they're putting themselves through a fair amount of hassle for unknown financial gain reliant upon a significant number of variable factors.

Wouldn't it just be easier to take £50m profit (or whatever the figure is) and walk away now rather than saddling themselves (the club) with debt, and hoping that on the field, levels of success (despite a tight player budget) will be sufficient to ensure that a new enlarged stadium is regularly filled and the corporate hospitality packages sold ?

Maybe G&H are gamblers but I know which option I'd prefer ?

Or did I miss something ? Maybe someone can tell me.

Hicks a few months ago valued the club at £1bn, on the basis that in 4 years we'd have a new stadium! Therein lies your answer. He thinks the club will be worth an absolute fortune when the stadium is finished. Who does he think will pay upwards of half a billion though for an uncompetitive team with a half built stadium? Cunts.

I'm sure DIC want to buy the club, but they wont pay the ridiculous amaounts Hicks is quoting, and rightly so.

[redlancer]

I think we should wait until the summer and see if we sign Masher and improve the squad where we know it needs improving, too much speculation.

We should also see how H&G pay for interest payments, if we don't make a big profit.

whoever bought us wouldn't of done it with all thier own money so will have borrowed be it from investors or the banks. Maybe its better from a bank than from a investors expecting a better quiker return.

We are now a buisness and who's to say DIC wouldn't of done exactly the same just dressed up differently. And its not like buisnesses aren't riddled with statments and plans that change.

From what i can tell 50% of the club is via a loan.

IMO - we're not far off having a PL challenging team lets see if the yanks now support Rafa, he seems to have gotton his defender in this window.

Thier handling of Rafa is way off the mark but then we're not privvy to all the goings on.

Would I prefer them not here and a multi billionaire who doesn';t care about making a profit - too right but that aint going to happen.

I'm still in the aint happy but lets see what happens now.

The yanks are in a damned if the do damned if the don't position at the moment.

There's a lot of complaints re the profits of the CL financing our buys - isn;t that how we want it.

OK the yanks are yet to back Rafa - but then considering whats gone on there're still probably in a honeymoon period or divorce courts? Either waay the cheque books aint comming out but then maybe everyone is seeing what will happen next few months.

[jrd7]

Nobody was complaining until they ****ed Rafa over. Debt on the club was probably an inevitability no matter who took over, given the money that we need to spend.

Debt for the stadium is fine - I had no problem with that.

Debt to pay for these cunts to pay for the club, was as far from inevitable as you could have got.

That was the reason we sold the ****ing club in the first ****ing place.

**** me, I see the mood is already calming towards these clowns

[kurtangle01]

I was open to DIC taking over but remember...it was them who walked away 12 months ago leaving us with no other option but to go with who we have in place now.

Whether their apparent interest was real this time around is anyones guess but the best thing we can do now is get behind the team and see how things develop at board room level.

[JohnOK]

Hicks has taken a lot of abuse in all this.

But may I remind you all of that smiling assassin George Gillett. He introduced the Fat Bell End to the club in the first place.

[Cormack74]

Hicks a few months ago valued the club at £1bn, on the basis that in 4 years we'd have a new stadium! Therein lies your answer. He thinks the club will be worth an absolute fortune when the stadium is finished. Who does he think will pay upwards of half a billion though for an uncompetitive team with a half built stadium? Cunts.

I'm sure DIC want to buy the club, but they wont pay the ridiculous amaounts Hicks is quoting, and rightly so.

It's just a friggin enormous gamble. A lot to gain but so much to lose. Maybe that's how the super rich become super rich.

[Joe King]

I was open to DIC taking over but remember...it was them who walked away 12 months ago leaving us with no other option but to go with who we have in place now.

Whether their apparent interest was real this time around is anyones guess but the best thing we can do now is get behind the team and see how things develop at board room level.

No, it was Moores and Parry going behind their backs to going for the more money. Greedy ****s.