Dubai International to make bid for Liverpool FC

[AFII]

Why not wait and see what happens?

Because if we even consider to take that chance then there is a very big risk that Liverpool FC as we know it will be gone forever.

We can't afford to wait and see, it's simply to dangerous to do that.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Because if we even consider to take that chance then there is a very big risk that Liverpool FC as we know it will be gone forever.

We can't afford to wait and see, it's simply to dangerous to do that.

Too late. It's already gone.

It left when Moores sold us.

We're running the gauntlet now, in the hands of unscrupulous businessmen. It's our money not trophies that matter these people.

You want that DIC mob because you want to believe that they'll be some romantic sugar daddy type, giving us their money for nothing in return.

The cold hard light of day of the Yanks, and them not using their own money doesn't appeal to your romanticised vision of how a club should be run. Think about it, they aren't LFC fans, they are businessmen, why should they put their own money on the table when they don't have to, and for that matter why should DIC?

The majority of you sound like spoilt children who didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.

This is what we are now. Great.

[Rafa Shankly]

But we aren't sure.

Why not wait and see what happens?

Or do you all like being hysterical with your pathetic Lawrence of Arabia avatars?

For the record I have contempt for them, but it would be the case for DIC as well. I don't want non LFC supporting businessmen running our club. We're an asset to these people.

So you're complaining that the Yanks are running it as a business, so clamouring for DIC makes you hypocrite, or don't you see it?

Seriously, show me where the Yanks have ran the club poorly from a financial sense?

Or are you just going to quote me a few articles in a rag and no actual evidence?

listen mate ive no interest in getting into a prove this and prove that debate.

the ****ing evidence is all there,you wanna choose to not believe it just because its in a news paper you go ahead,and if also you wanna accuse everyone of being hysterical and pathetic and presumebly over reacting you go ahead.

btw mate you dont get any medals for being the voice of reason.

[Guest]

Too late. It's already gone.

It left when Moores sold us.

We're running the gauntlet now, in the hands of unscrupulous businessmen. It's our money not trophies that matter these people.

You want that DIC mob because you want to believe that they'll be some romantic sugar daddy type, giving us their money for nothing in return.

The cold hard light of day of the Yanks, and them not using their own money doesn't appeal to your romanticised vision of how a club should be run. Think about it, they aren't LFC fans, they are businessmen, why should they put their own money on the table when they don't have to, and for that matter why should DIC?

The majority of you sound like spoilt children who didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.

This is what we are now. Great.

It's not about a 'sugar daddy' giving us the money. Still, you're banging about the same thing since the beginning. It's about financial clout, being able to spend when needed, not by taking ages negotiating a loan.

Do you really think that football is structured in such a way where managers plan what they'll spend (budget) as regards to our needs ? A player's value depends on a number of factors, and it's usually dependant on what other clubs are prepared to pay. United and Chelsea are a prime example of that.

How will we compete if these clowns just take every occasion to 'leverage' us ? There are enough facts out there which backs that.

[Manofthebog]

Moores sold us because he couldn't take us, financially to the "next level".

He fecked up, because the people he sold the "family jewels" to, can't either, and have doubled the debt on the club in the mean time.

Baa baa.

[Alpha]

Too late. It's already gone.

It left when Moores sold us.

We're running the gauntlet now, in the hands of unscrupulous businessmen. It's our money not trophies that matter these people.

You want that DIC mob because you want to believe that they'll be some romantic sugar daddy type, giving us their money for nothing in return.

The cold hard light of day of the Yanks, and them not using their own money doesn't appeal to your romanticised vision of how a club should be run. Think about it, they aren't LFC fans, they are businessmen, why should they put their own money on the table when they don't have to, and for that matter why should DIC?

The majority of you sound like spoilt children who didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.

This is what we are now. Great.

Niall I think you're out of order mate.

The majority don't want DIC in as much as they want the Americans out. And they don't want the Americans out because they aren't philanthropic benefactors but because they aren't the philanthropic benefactors they introduced themselves as.

[blacky]

But we aren't sure.

Why not wait and see what happens?

Or do you all like being hysterical with your pathetic Lawrence of Arabia avatars?

For the record I have contempt for them, but it would be the case for DIC as well. I don't want non LFC supporting businessmen running our club. We're an asset to these people.

So you're complaining that the Yanks are running it as a business, so clamouring for DIC makes you hypocrite, or don't you see it?

Seriously, show me where the Yanks have ran the club poorly from a financial sense?

Or are you just going to quote me a few articles in a rag and no actual evidence?

Have you read this thread properly. Get off your high horse lad and do your own research before accusing members of being hysterical. Nobody is saying DIC will not treat us as a business. The problem people have with Hicks in particular is his proven track record of poorly running his existing sports franchises not to mention his dealing with corinthians is south america. Look at his so called previous models for success, his broken promises and his assett stripping of these other businesses and compare it to the business model that DIC use then come back and try that argument again

[disco]

Now when you read a statement like that at face value you would be forgiven for assuming that the owners are prepared to see the club through any future difficulties. Say, for example, Liverpool failed to qualify for the Champions League next season, and could only afford, for example, £4m of that £21m interest needed by the holding company, that the owners would happily dig deep and stump up the other £17m. Well think again.

In that example, the owners have three choices. Firstly, stump up the £17m from out of their own funds. Secondly, allow the banks to use the security the owners put down against this loan to recover the money they required. Finally, use the assets the club has in order to find that £17m.

It's this bit we should clarify with the owners, although the author has not surprisingly jumped to his own conclusion.....

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Niall I think you're out of order mate.

The majority don't want DIC in as much as they want the Americans out. And they don't want the Americans out because they aren't philanthropic benefactors but because they aren't the philanthropic benefactors they introduced themselves as.

Fair enough.

But really, we're on the slippery slope now, aren't we?

What if DIC say they're going to do something, then don't do it,or simply change their minds?

We have no say anymore.

Are we going to have this silly lynch mob mentality everytime?

[blacky]

Too late. It's already gone.

It left when Moores sold us.

We're running the gauntlet now, in the hands of unscrupulous businessmen. It's our money not trophies that matter these people.

You want that DIC mob because you want to believe that they'll be some romantic sugar daddy type, giving us their money for nothing in return.

The cold hard light of day of the Yanks, and them not using their own money doesn't appeal to your romanticised vision of how a club should be run. Think about it, they aren't LFC fans, they are businessmen, why should they put their own money on the table when they don't have to, and for that matter why should DIC?

The majority of you sound like spoilt children who didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.

This is what we are now. Great.

Bull****. Everyone wants the club to be ran professionally. Fullstop.

[Guest]

I just want to see which manager will thrive in this environment. LFC is not an attractive proposition at the moment.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Bull****. Everyone wants the club to be ran professionally. Fullstop.

So if and when they takeover, they pay for the club and stadium with debts, just like the Yanks have, what will your response be?

[Guest]

So if and when they takeover, they pay for the club and stadium with debts, just like the Yanks have, what will your response be?

It's not about that. Hicks should shut the **** up for a start.

[blacky]

So if and when they takeover, they pay for the club and stadium with debts, just like the Yanks have, what will your response be?

Firstly I've never said the debts bother me. Our owners ability to support the debts payments does however!!

[Red Chilli]

So if and when they takeover, they pay for the club and stadium with debts, just like the Yanks have, what will your response be?

The way I see it there are a couple of issues:

1) The way the Yanks undermined Rafa publically (Klinnsman) and professionally(transfer funds) recently. That's a major cock up IMO.

2) Resources: The Yanks are doing the best they can but they simply don't ahve the resources to compete. In this respect they are the same as Moores, the only difference is that there are 2 Yanks and only 1 Davey Moores. DIC do have the resources, if times are tough DIC can afford to let the manager dip into the transfer market, the Yanks don't have this option.