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Although the interest paid would be an allowable expense when calculating corporation tax, the investment income would also be taxable. Another factor would be risk. If you're looking for returns of 12-15% then you have to take on more risk.
Aye fella all good points. Wasn't necessarily suggesting they should do it this way just pointing out the possibilities
I think the people who are against this are also the ones saying Hicks and Gillett are not that bad and things could be worse. I am not ready to take any chances with my club (it's mine even if I'm an OTT'er) and to let Hicks do his stuff in peace would be a massive gamble and most likely a mistake - I think his past history, charachter and actions as owner of LFC indicate that he is not fit as an owner and I can't fathom how some poster can bury their heads so deep in the sand.
Bottom line is this is the only confirmed attempt (Early days and all that) to takeover the club. What's more it offers an eminently more secure financial future (in theory).
For those reasons (to mis-quote one of those ****s on Dragon's Den), I'm in
These are my concerns too. I would have thought it would be much more realistic to have created shares at ~£1K and say you could own a maximum of 5 rather than have one share of £5k.
It's something I'd like to get involved in if it could be made possible but I can't afford £5k at the moment and having part of a share with people I don't know well isn't too appealing
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
These are my concerns too. I would have thought it would be much more realistic to have created shares at ~£1K and say you could own a maximum of 5 rather than have one share of £5k.
It's something I'd like to get involved in if it could be made possible but I can't afford £5k at the moment and having part of a share with people I don't know well isn't too appealing
I would still love it to happen though.
If you did it through here, you could open a thread for your group and everyone would write a name. See how many you get. Makes it all very public though but you wouldn't be doing it often.
I think the people who are against this are also the ones saying Hicks and Gillett are not that bad and things could be worse. I am not ready to take any chances with my club (it's mine even if I'm an OTT'er) and to let Hicks do his stuff in peace would be a massive gamble and most likely a mistake - I think his past history, charachter and actions as owner of LFC indicate that he is not fit as an owner and I can't fathom how some poster can bury their heads so deep in the sand.
The thing that doesn't work is the website, anyone know why shareliverpoolfc.co.uk can't be connected to?
The account has been suspended again, must be due to the ammount of traffic going to it.
There must be a lot more interest than they initially thought there was going to be for this idea
We managed to rectify it, though, because it now says, "Cook" where it once said "Cock", and "Pass" where it once said "Piss", so it’s slightly less rude.
Can anyone see an issue around the first 20000 to be prioritised for tickets? How would this be fair on current season ticket holders who can't afford 5K?
Quote of the year :
"With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"
I think the people who are against this are also the ones saying Hicks and Gillett are not that bad and things could be worse. I am not ready to take any chances with my club (it's mine even if I'm an OTT'er) and to let Hicks do his stuff in peace would be a massive gamble and most likely a mistake - I think his past history, charachter and actions as owner of LFC indicate that he is not fit as an owner and I can't fathom how some poster can bury their heads so deep in the sand.
Sorry, who is it exactly that is against this? Or pro Hicks? Always this invisible opposition to these posturings. I wish everyone would stop leaping over one another to let everyone know how much they dislike Hicks.
I think the people who are against this are also the ones saying Hicks and Gillett are not that bad and things could be worse. I am not ready to take any chances with my club (it's mine even if I'm an OTT'er) and to let Hicks do his stuff in peace would be a massive gamble and most likely a mistake - I think his past history, charachter and actions as owner of LFC indicate that he is not fit as an owner and I can't fathom how some poster can bury their heads so deep in the sand.
It is hardly surprising that people who don't think G&H are that bad think that another high risk gamble is not the answer. No top team in the modern era has had a fans takeover and there is no history of community owned clubs in England. It would be a huge gamble to move to this model.
For me G&H are probably a bad thing in the long term. However I think they are not the devil and in teh short term their plan is not so evil. Any alternative has to have it's financing already set up before it will get my backing. This plan patently does not meet this basic criteria.
If someone starts the ball really rolling then I would be willing to reassess it.
Sorry, who is it exactly that is against this? Or pro Hicks? Always this invisible opposition to these posturings. I wish everyone would stop leaping over one another to let everyone know how much they dislike Hicks.
"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
Can anyone see an issue around the first 20000 to be prioritised for tickets? How would this be fair on current season ticket holders who can't afford 5K?
i thought the same thing - my dad has had a season ticket for over 30 yrs and one in my mum's name for about 15 that he pays for every year - i doubt he would put £5k - they can't just turn round to people and **** 'em off.
tbh i don't see how this will work
i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do
If shareliverpool did manage to raise the £500m won't this just emphasise to Hicks (and Gilette) just how valuable a commodity he has bought into?
I'm struggling to understand how Hicks will be persuaded to sell up when faced with an offer from this (or any group for that matter). It's all very well suggesting a boycott of the games, but that isn't really where the money is. It might be in the corporate seats (who surely won't boycott) but is definitely in the tv money. TV audiences would certainly go up!
There will obviously be a figure at which he will sell cos everyone has a price, but if we raise £500m it will be higher than that.
I agree if you don't try you won't know but I have a nagging doubt about it.
i thought the same thing - my dad has had a season ticket for over 30 yrs and one in my mum's name for about 15 that he pays for every year - i doubt he would put £5k - they can't just turn round to people and **** 'em off.
tbh i don't see how this will work
I assumed (rightly or wrongly) that it would be something like the priority ticket scheme opposed to season tickets
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