Man City V Liverpool - Post Match Celebrations and ZOMG Sensible Debate!!!11

[lfc1394]

lol

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/sundays-pr...44/index3.html

[breffniboy]

Too many of our fans have jumped the gun regarding our title credentials in the past, getting ahead of themselves after one good win and ready-reckoning our potential points total by January and the like. Such nonsense never held any water for me, but today's win truly hallmarks us as genuine, bona-fide premierleague contenders for the first time ever under Rafa. Now we can start to dream.

A word of caution: Steve Bruce teams are our archetypal nemesis - borderline pub teams who'll kick us up in the air and come in their shorts at the thoughts of a 0-0 at Anfield. It is absolutely imperative that we rubber stamp our credentials by sweeping aside this rabble who will come to defend stubbornly and hope for a set piece goal to cling on to. We fail to these teams all too often, let's show everyone what we can do and not have another Stoke!

We're coming up the hill boys, we're coming up the hill

[kev776]

will there be a DVD ???? whoops wrong team hehe

[Shaggy]

Too many of our fans have jumped the gun regarding our title credentials in the past, getting ahead of themselves after one good win and ready-reckoning our potential points total by January and the like. Such nonsense never held any water for me, but today's win truly hallmarks us as genuine, bona-fide premierleague contenders for the first time ever under Rafa. Now we can start to dream.

A word of caution: Steve Bruce teams are our archetypal nemesis - borderline pub teams who'll kick us up in the air and come in their shorts at the thoughts of a 0-0 at Anfield. It is absolutely imperative that we rubber stamp our credentials by sweeping aside this rabble who will come to defend stubbornly and hope for a set piece goal to cling on to. We fail to these teams all too often, let's show everyone what we can do and not have another Stoke!

We're coming up the hill boys, we're coming up the hill

[dom9]

lol

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/sundays-pr...44/index3.html

That made me chuckle.

They have some funny guys on there. ("Carra shouted at Skrtel to get up"). I liked the graph especially.

I thought there were one or two reasonable guys on there.

[lfc1394]

Bet their fans are not slagging him off now. He is unpredictable and that is something we have been craving for for a while.

Every city fan was saying how **** he was, I didn't remember him playing for them, but he has obviously improved as he has been excellent for us. He has come in and kept Babel out of the side on merit.

[dww]

Can't wait for Football First/MOTD. Gonna watch em both .

International break now obviously but Wigan at home for us next with Chelsea at Boro, which will not be easy for them. Arsenal are at home to the Bitters and the Mancs are at home to West ****ing Brom.

I think you under estimate Boro's ability to steal a defest from the jaws of victory. At the start of the season I was predicting that Wigan and Boro would be two teams who would surprise people - building on improvements last year. While in some games that has been true of Wigan in that of Boro they seem to have kept all the good things from last year but magnified all their faults.

[Cormack74]

Every city fan was saying how **** he was, I didn't remember him playing for them, but he has obviously improved as he has been excellent for us. He has come in and kept Babel out of the side on merit.

Most of their team was **** when he played for City so I'm not sure how he could be singled out.

The few times that I saw him he didn't set the world alight but he did put everything in which wasn't necessarily the case with his team mates.

Glad he's now showing he's got a fair degree of skill to go with it.

[pondus]

That made me chuckle.

They have some funny guys on there. ("Carra shouted at Skrtel to get up"). I liked the graph especially.

I thought there were one or two reasonable guys on there.

He did actually as we had the ball and was in a hurry to get that third goal, but that was before he realized how serious the injury was

[DannyMan2006]

lol

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/sundays-pr...44/index3.html

I couldn't believe what I wa reading..........

They were very gracious in our victory, some even going as far to say fair play Liverpool (or dippers) and they did not celebrate Skrtels injury - they were very gracious saying they hoped he was okay. Must admit I wouldn't be half as classy if Ronaldo or Rio had been injured.

Some idiots, but I am very suprised. Fair play to some of them.

[pondus]

City fans booing as Skrtl is carried off

[lfc1394]

Most of their team was **** when he played for City so I'm not sure how he could be singled out.

The few times that I saw him he didn't set the world alight but he did put everything in which wasn't necessarily the case with his team mates.

Glad he's now showing he's got a fair degree of skill to go with it.

He has a lot of heart and really does work hard as well as having a lot of skill, I'm sure there is more to come from the lad as well

[Shaggy]

Some days in football are just golden. For Liverpool, this was one of those rare occasions when everything came together and an admiring audience was left to wonder whether they might, after all, have the wit and gumption to sustain an authentic Premier League challenge rather than just flit around the edges.

What other conclusion can be drawn from the way Rafael Benítez's players responded to going two goals down by dismantling Manchester City? Their passing was stylish, their spirit one of togetherness and, in arguably the most dramatic game in England's top division so far this season, it culminated in that most dramatic and brutal of football moments - the stoppage-time winner that leaves opponents helpless to do anything about.

By then, the blood had drained from the faces of those City supporters who, at half-time, were giddily asking each other when, if ever, they had seen their team play so exquisitely. For it to end this way represents a bruising experience. Typical City, you could say. Yet that would be doing a huge disservice to the way Liverpool played in the second half and, in particular, Fernando Torres's ability to penetrate English defences. The Spaniard was majestic, his fourth and fifth goals of the season bringing the game level, and it was his deflected shot that fell to Dirk Kuyt to complete this remarkable comeback.

"The reaction we showed in the second half was fantastic," said Benítez, eyes sparkling. "The character, the determination. The thing our players showed is that they always believe. They went out in the second half believing they could win. It was a result that came from their mentality."

He was entitled to eulogise about the quality of Liverpool's play and City's supporters were wrong to try to pin the blame on the referee, Peter Walton, for sending off Pablo Zabaleta for his challenge on Xabi Alonso midway through the second half, with the score at 2-1. The red card badly undermined City's chances of holding on but the video replays do not support the Argentinian's protests. "I've seen it in slow-motion and I can understand why the referee has gone for his red card," Mark Hughes, the City manager, who was indignant at the time, acknowledged.

Liverpool were level within six minutes, Torres heading Steven Gerrard's corner past Joe Hart after a diagonal run to the near post. Torres, paradoxically, then skied his easiest chance of the game but the second half had become a story of near-unremitting pressure on Hart's goal. The game had been turned upside down. "I've seen a lot of Liverpool and in the first half I think we caused them as many problems as any other team this season," Hughes reflected. "We took the game to a very good side and I think we were excellent."

Stephen Ireland had volleyed City into a 19th-minute lead and when Javier Garrido curled a wonderful free-kick past Pepe Reina four minutes before the break, at the height of their superiority, it was starting to feel like this was the day that the Premier League's newest billionaires gave the Big Four a jolt where it matters most: on the pitch. Everyone's eyes naturally fall on Robinho but it was another Brazilian, Elano, who was running the game. It was not that Liverpool played badly, just that City were magnificent.

But then it changed. Ten minutes into the second half, Gerrard played in Alvaro Arbeloa who crossed for Torres to slide in Liverpool's first goal. And thereafter Gerrard, Alonso and Kuyt dominated in midfield. Benítez brought on another striker, Robbie Keane, to help out Torres and, a man down, City could not cope with the speed and accuracy with which their opponents moved the ball.

Finally, the substitute Yossi Benayoun slipped in Torres for another shot at goal, his effort clipped Richard Dunne and Kuyt swept in the rebound to consign City, these Champions League wannabes, to the highly unsatisfactory statistic of four defeats in seven league fixtures.

Liverpool are unbeaten and they did a lot here to suggest they might have the durability not to drift out of the title race in the same way as previous seasons. The perfect day? Not quite, on an afternoon that saw Martin Skrtel carried off on a stretcher with a knee injury. He will have a scan today to ascertain whether there is knee ligament damage.

Their team may never pull off another comeback to compare with the 2005 Champions League final but this recovery will live in the memory.

Man of the match: Fernando Torres (Liverpool)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/oct/06/premierleague.manchestercity

[Kenneth]

We scored from a corner ffs

[rage]

well i hope rage learns from today in that his vitriol, not only is incorrect, but that we have the class to step up and perhaps its now time to shut up for a while with the negativity and give rafa and the lads the chance to prove that they can do it. that the next bad result - like stoke - doesnt mean its back to square 1 and rafa tobe sacked etc etc.

we've come back against utd and today which, prior to this season we never would have done.

we're winning a lot without playing brilliantly. great sign.

well in lads. well in rafa.

oh and i saw rick parry yesterday afternoon in chester. looked one glum *******. was with his son and they looked like a married couple that never speak anymore. he was a picture of abject misery. maybe he knows his days are numbered.

what on earth are you on about. go and read what i said in the match thread and tell me what specifically i said there u found to be negative and inaccurate. also what particularly in this thread did i say was negative?

the second half today for me is why rafa must learn from, regardless of how many of you on here tell me to **** off. for the vast majority of teams we'll play in the premiership i do believe that we should play to our strengths instead of setting up to negate the strengths of the opposition. OUR SECOND HALF DISPLAY PROVES THE VALIDITY OF THIS POINT.