Lucas

[Kinell]

He just doesn't seem to improve.

[Nic83]

That's because he's not a footballer, just an imposter

[Elvoz]

As i said before, one of the worst ive ever seen and i don't just mean at LFC, or indeed in professional football.

nice to have the ramblings back fella

[Havors]

Yes. He gave away a silly penalty but I don't think he had a bad game at all. He's a promising young player who has a lot of ability.

That said Alonso is a lot better than him and I think he should have played but that isn't Lucas' fault.

Dont be silly! He brings nothing to the team. We may as well be playing with 10 men. All he does is clip at the heals of the opposition giving foul after foul away and when he does have the ball he cant pass! The young lads and reserves we have are all better players so why is he still getting games??

That just brings us back to Rafa and his stupid team selections and subs...

[ufc43]

Dont be silly! He brings nothing to the team. We may as well be playing with 10 men. All he does is clip at the heals of the opposition giving foul after foul away and when he does have the ball he cant pass! The young lads and reserves we have are all better players so why is he still getting games??

That just brings us back to Rafa and his stupid team selections and subs...

I bet he will be in the starting eleven against Pompey!

[ufc43]

What a match last night. Both teams were shocking. I have seen better football played in the park. Fair play to the fans who tried to keep it interesting. More negative football from Liverpool last night. Yes we lost Gerard early on, but we were playing Evertons reserve team. They showed more fight and hunger for the game and that is why they won it, not because we had a man sent off, as when Lucas plays we only play with ten anyway. A great result against Chelsea and a good performance, why not put the same team out and keep the momentum going? Benitez is really starting to piss me off.

1.Riena: Had little to do but did it well especially the double save. 7/10
2.Dossena: Tried to get forward but his crossing was shocking. 3/10
3.Carra: Little to do but did it well. 7/10
4.Skrtel: Carried the ball forward Agger style and defended well. 7/10
5.Arbeloa: Defended OK for 118 minutes. Was lost for the goal. 5/10
6.Riera: Started brightly and faded rapidly. 5/10
7.Alonso: Misplaced a number of passes but was always the one looking for the ball, got hacked time and time again yet never complained. 6/10
8.Lucas: Was doing OK (by his standards) and then gets sent off. Someone please tell him that his brain is available for collection at aisle 2. 4/10
9. Kuyt: Gave 100%. Used the ball well, unfortunately everyone around him was quite poor and it eventually rubbed off. 6/10
10. Gerrard: Not on long enough to rate. Pray his injury is minor.
11. Torres: Didn't look interested from the first whistle and constantly moaned to the ref. If this was Keane he would of been slaughtered on EST1892. Hopefully a one off. 2/10
12. Babel: Never received a decent ball. Not on long enough to rate.
13. Mascherano: Had little to do. Not on long enough to rate.
14. Benayoun: Tried his best and was the only one that looked like creating anything, put some nice passes together and worked back well. 7/10

And finally Rafa: Should of gone with the team that bossed Chelsea, never changed things when we never looked like scoring, only made subs in desperation. Has us playing real negative football. Will probably come out with another rash statement that were better off out of the FA cup. I personally love the FA cup and love cup final day so I'm pissed that we wont be in it. 3/10

[dww]

I get the impression that Lucas is really lacking confidence. I don't think he has played that badly but he looks to lack the ambition he was starting to show and is now panicing and making bad decisions more too. I think the lack of support from the fans has a lot to answer for in this case.

[Pablo]

I get the impression that Lucas is really lacking confidence. I don't think he has played that badly but he looks to lack the ambition he was starting to show and is now panicing and making bad decisions more too. I think the lack of support from the fans has a lot to answer for in this case.

I didnt think he was as bad as some of you lot are making out anyway.

Also dww - You must have noticed all those silly free kicks he gives away by now though eh?

[dww]

I didnt think he was as bad as some of you lot are making out anyway.

Also dww - You must have noticed all those silly free kicks he gives away by now though eh?

Last few games he has. He has simply been playing worse than he was IMO.

He had a decent game and made one really lousy decision yesterday.

[memzey]

I get the implression Lucas is really lacking ability.

The best I've ever seen him play is average

[dww]

I don't really object to anyone disagreeing with me about his ability. I just find the open hatred of one of our players sad.

He isn't the sort of player people idolise. He is a continuity and short passing based player who on occasions has shown he has the vision to pick a ball that can turn defense into attack. I feel strongly that given confidence he would be a very useful player. We lack good, neat short passers only really Alonso and Agger can claim real skill in that area at PL pace IMO.

[S-RED]

I think all he lacks in maturity & a bit of savvy, he gets booked (ala Scholes) making poor challenges, but instead of using a bit of common sense, he continues to fly in on the following tackles.

Take Masch on Sunday, he got booked 2nd half, from then onwards whilst he still harried & hassled, he didn't put in a 50/50 challenges, as he knew he would get a 2nd yellow.

Alonso does the same.

Give the lad time to mature (at least 2 years more yet) & then start moaning if he hasn't improved.

He frustrates the hell out of me at the moment, but i think he'll come good given time & if we as fans don't batter his confidence in to the ground.

[Reece]

I think all he lacks in maturity & a bit of savvy, he gets booked (ala Scholes) making poor challenges, but instead of using a bit of common sense, he continues to fly in on the following tackles.

Take Masch on Sunday, he got booked 2nd half, from then onwards whilst he still harried & hassled, he didn't put in a 50/50 challenges, as he knew he would get a 2nd yellow.

Alonso does the same.

Give the lad time to mature (at least 2 years more yet) & then start moaning if he hasn't improved.

He frustrates the hell out of me at the moment, but i think he'll come good given time & if we as fans don't batter his confidence in to the ground.

You could argue that Alonso was lucky not to get sent off for doing basically the same thing Lucas did for his second yellow.

But other than that I generally agree with you

[S-RED]

You could argue that Alonso was lucky not to get sent off for doing basically the same thing Lucas did for his second yellow.

But other than that I generally agree with you

I agree, but that was down to pure tiredness i think, Lucas was just not using his brain.

[Baldemort]

I certainly do not hate the man, but i do not think he is good for a team with title winning aspirations. As a fourth choice back up who is happy to play a bit part role in the season then yeh, he will do. Alonso ran across someone yesterday and was booked for it, but he wasnt already on a yellow. Lucas was already on a yellow and made a pathetic challenge. It wasnt subtle with a hope that he may get away with it, it was blatantly stupid. To add some balance to the lucas debate, i think their are just as many here guilty of ignoring his lack of ability and glaring mistakes as there are those who blindly tear the guy to shreds at every opportunity.