Danny Wilson Deal Agreed

[dww]

I think we will have to get used to this sort of link. I suspect we will be looking to get the squad bulked up with more players but on small wages and for smallish fees. Possibly aiming to free up a bit of money for one or two decent signings. I'd suspect players like Skrtel are gone more or less for no other reason than finances. I hope we put faith in the likes of San Jose and Ayala rather than buying in players of the standard of Bougherra though.

[Mostar]

I think we will have to get used to this sort of link. I suspect we will be looking to get the squad bulked up with more players but on small wages and for smallish fees. Possibly aiming to free up a bit of money for one or two decent signings. I'd suspect players like Skrtel are gone more or less for no other reason than finances. I hope we put faith in the likes of San Jose and Ayala rather than buying in players of the standard of Bougherra though.

If that is the only approach we are taking for the future than I have some serious concerns. I hope that is only temporary state of our buying financial powers. I think bring young perspective players as long term investment is good piece of business and expected but problem is that only few are able to ever break into serious first team selection given limited playing opportunities. At the same time to be competitive and stay contenders we will have to bring quality that can showcase skills instantly and for that we have to have decent budget. Hopefully we can have a good mixture of both.

[dww]

I think we are buying young players that are closer to first team readiness now. Shelvey and Wilson would probably be in line to compete with the players we have in the first team squad from the off.

I don't think we realistically have much choice financially at the minute. We need a bigger squad of players to compete in the PL if it is another slog like this season and we also need to try and get a couple of genuine upgrades to the first XI.

[Mostar]

I think we are buying young players that are closer to first team readiness now. Shelvey and Wilson would probably be in line to compete with the players we have in the first team squad from the off.
I don't think we realistically have much choice financially at the minute. We need a bigger squad of players to compete in the PL if it is another slog like this season and we also need to try and get a couple of genuine upgrades to the first XI.

I am not so sure that is the case. Both of them have not really proved themselves in their respective former teams yet let alone never play in PL. I cannot see them challenging for the first squad place in next few years.

I agree we (if we have any budget without selling top players first) need quality improvements to at least put us in playing contention as otherwise I am not so sure that next year will look up any better than last season.

[dww]

I am not so sure that is the case. Both of them have not really proved themselves in their respective former teams yet let alone never play in PL. I cannot see them challenging for the first squad place in next few years.

I agree we (if we have any budget without selling top players first) need quality improvements to at least put us in playing contention as otherwise I am not so sure that next year will look up any better than last season.

Hmmm. Wilson may not have proved himself at Rangers but I think there is very little argument that Shelvey had proved himself as much as any 18 year old could at Charlton really. I agree that is not the level of proving ones self that we require at Liverpool but it is much more than a lot of the young players we have had. Both are at the level of or above that Ngog came to us at in terms of progression in my view. They might not be ready for starting just yet bit I'd expect them to be options given we now have a 7 man bench. I also think that for Wilson games at left back look a pretty good possibility.

I'm not sure we are as far off as your comment makes out but we do need two or three players in to complement those we have. We definitely need to have two more consistent wide performers in the squad.

[SB]

Danny Wilson’s dream move to Liverpool has stalled — because the young Rangers defender does not meet a ‘homegrown’ quota system being introduced by the English Premier League.

Now the cash-strapped Ibrox club could lose out on up to £3million if the 18-year-old remains in Glasgow next season before leaving when his contract expires.

Sportsmail understands Wilson had proven particularly attractive to the Merseyside giants because they are planning for new regulations which will demand eight homegrown players in every topflight club’s 25-man squad.

Liverpool initially believed it applied to footballers from across the whole of the British Isles, but their interest has now cooled after it emerged only youngsters brought through at English and Welsh clubs will qualify.

This has forced a hitch in the projected Wilson deal, which had seen Liverpool offer a £2.5m down payment, with a further £1.5m in add-ons.

While it is believed they still want to sign the PFA Scotland Young Player of the Year, it will not be with the same urgency as before. Wilson has rejected all offers of an extension to his contract with Rangers.

And it’s understood that, if no agreement can be struck with Liverpool at the moment, he will resolve to remain at Ibrox next season before becoming eligible to sign a pre-contract elsewhere in January.

Any club signing Wilson would then have to pay only around £650,000 in compensation under FIFA rules relating to players under the age of 24.
Rafa Benitez

Buying British: Rafa Benitez wants to add fresh British blood to his squad

FA Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore said: ‘All clubs must declare their 25-man squad at the end of August after the close of the transfer window.

‘No more than 17 of those players can be over the age of 21 and not home-grown.

‘The definition of homegrown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. It is not in a club’s interests to stockpile players. It will make buying home-grown talent more attractive.’

Rafa Benitez has already started to adjust Liverpool’s staffing levels, with young Englishman Jonjo Shelvey signing from Charlton Athletic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1281183/Liverpools-Rangers-kid-Danny-Wilson-fresh-doubt-new-homegrown-rules.html?ITO=1490

This could be a ploy by Rafa to get the price down or he may in fact wait 12 months and get him on a free. I suppose it depends if Rangers need the cash.

[Exiled_red]

As he's only 18 he wouldn't need to be registered as one of our homegrown players, we can have as many as we like under 21.

Whether he would qualify as homegrown or not in future (after 3 years here) I'm unsure, I've read different versions of the rules. But we'd have 2 years of him being classed as a young player, in which time we can assess whether he's good enough to keep as a non homegrown player (if he wouldn't qualify after 3 years).

[SB]

As he's only 18 he wouldn't need to be registered as one of our homegrown players, we can have as many as we like under 21.

Whether he would qualify as homegrown or not in future (after 3 years here) I'm unsure, I've read different versions of the rules. But we'd have 2 years of him being classed as a young player, in which time we can assess whether he's good enough to keep as a non homegrown player (if he wouldn't qualify after 3 years).

But I think we want him to be registered as a home grown player mate ( or am I mistaken )

[Dirk07]

But I think we want him to be registered as a home grown player mate ( or am I mistaken )

i'm sure you are right

i'm struggling to imagine liverpool could make this mistake though, surely if you are a professional manager, scout, footballer administrator and paid a huge amount compared to other industries you should understand these regulations and somebody should have picked this up much sooner (if the story is true?)

[dww]

I get the feeling any delay between rumour and official announcement is taken as an excuse to write a story based on nothing more that scuttlebutt in the papers. Especially as our 'demise' is the current topic they are running with pre-World Cup.

[SB]

i'm sure you are right

i'm struggling to imagine liverpool could make this mistake though, surely if you are a professional manager, scout, footballer administrator and paid a huge amount compared to other industries you should understand these regulations and somebody should have picked this up much sooner (if the story is true?)

Normally I'd say SACK PARRY but we've already done that so...

[Jack D Rips]

WTF? How can a Scottish player not be British?

[dww]

WTF? How can a Scottish player not be British?

It's not about being British it's about being trained in the home association of the club. Players trained within the English FA structure (which includes English and Welsh teams such as Cardiff and Swansea) count whereas those trained under the auspices of the Scottish FA don't as I understand it.

[Nick77]

It's not about being British it's about being trained in the home association of the club. Players trained within the English FA structure (which includes English and Welsh teams such as Cardiff and Swansea) count whereas those trained under the auspices of the Scottish FA don't as I understand it.

Typical FA/FIFA/UEFA bull**** if true - I mean players from Wales qualify but not players from Scotland? That is a complete pile of ****e if true imo!
It should be only players from England or the WHOLE of Britain...

[dww]

Typical FA/FIFA/UEFA bull**** if true - I mean players from Wales qualify but not players from Scotland? That is a complete pile of ****e if true imo!
It should be only players from England or the WHOLE of Britain...

It's not all players from Wales - just those from the clubs that play in the English leagues. Seems a perfectly reasonable to me. I suppose you could argue that the Welsh teams shouldn't be in the English league but they have been here for a while and I don't think it has done anyone any harm.