Money money money

[Tom]

What has history got to do with chopping and changing, it's a different game to what it was back in the 60s 70s 80s. Also disagree that new supporters have to learn about the history, it's nice if they want to but they don't have to.

Shankly didn't win a cup for 5 years. Would you have sacked him?

[Tom]

yes money helps. But all we expect is the players to be let off the lease and allowed to attack. money doesn't come into that. Luton play attacking football and have bugger all money.

Its an excuse.

It's not an excuse - Luton will never win anything, no matter how they play.

[Red Chilli]

The european cup is generally counted as being more important than the championship.

Really? I thought opinion was divided on the matter. Maybe we should do a poll. My own personal opinion is that the premiership is more important than the champions league.

[est1980]

eh?

I will Happliy include Cisse and Alsonso into that list

Ferdinand 29.1 Million

Carrick 18.6 Million

Rooney 25 Million

Saha 12.8 Million

TOTAL 85.6 Million

Sissoko 5 Million

Gonzalez 3 Million

Pennant 6.7 Million

Kuit 9 Million

Cisse 14 million

alsono 10 million


TOTAL 47.7


As you can see we got 6 players to their 4 and they still spent 40 million MORE than us.

Emphasises my point i think

[Tom]

Really? I thought opinion was divided on the matter. Maybe we should do a poll. My own personal opinion is that the premiership is more important than the champions league.

The european cup is the premier club competition. It's not a matter of opinion it's a matter of fact. Shows how much you know about football.

[est1980]

i dont think its as simple as one is more inpoortant than the other. i think now we have won one we would like the other. but in our state then i think the CL was more important because of the money it generates

[Red Chilli]

The european cup is the premier club competition. It's not a matter of opinion it's a matter of fact. Shows how much you know about football.

Well Wenger agrees with me, if I know as much as him then I'll be happy.

[Red Chilli]

i dont think its as simple as one is more inpoortant than the other. i think now we have won one we would like the other. but in our state then i think the CL was more important because of the money it generates

So why are we so poor then?

[ronan]

I will Happliy include Cisse and Alsonso into that list

Ferdinand 29.1 Million

Carrick 18.6 Million

Rooney 25 Million

Saha 12.8 Million

TOTAL 85.6 Million

Sissoko 5 Million

Gonzalez 3 Million

Pennant 6.7 Million

Kuit 9 Million

Cisse 14 million

alsono 10 million


TOTAL 47.7


As you can see we got 6 players to their 4 and they still spent 40 million MORE than us.

Emphasises my point i think

no im sorry mate i dont buy that.
yes they can and do spend vast ammounts of money on one player and can afford to do that but that doesnt mean theyre buying quality
see veron 28m

[BobTheCharmer]

It's not an excuse - Luton will never win anything, no matter how they play.

no, but their fans get entertained right?

So what I'm saying is I'd rather see the team being positive, trying their best and just coming up short, than what we have at present and thats a team with no defined style, a manager seemingly no closer to grasping whats required to win in this league.

I'd preferred to have lost 4-2 and had a go.

[Tom]

Well Wenger agrees with me, if I know as much as him then I'll be happy.

It's because he's never won it. Uefa is the governing body for football in europe. Football in the UK falls under their governance and in the hierachy of competitions the European cup is the highest honour a club can win.

It's not a matter of opinions, its a fact.

[Morph]

Sorry this is bollocks. Every fan that supports the club has a duty to learn and know the history of the club. You're supporting the club as an institution as much as a team. That means understanding its ethos and history.

Then you come out with the oxymoronic "what has history got to do with chopping and changing, it's a different game to what it was in the 60s, 70s and 80s" I'll let you work that one out.....

If you're saying it's oxymoronic in that those decades were when we last won the title then let me refer you to the Fergusson stat where he never fielded the same team all season and won the prem.

And the fans don't have a duty to learn about the history, they can do if they want to, but they don't have to. They will surely pick up much of the history as they go along as I have done, and then might want to go to some books and dvd's in the future.

A lot of new fans are sick of hearing people bleat on about the teams and players of the past, the past is exactly that, the past. So there's no point comparing tactics players etc, because it's all different nowadays.

[Tom]

So why are we so poor then?

If you take away the 35 odd million quid we accumulated from winning in Istanbul then we really would have been stuffed. Do you really know nothing about football or are you just on a wind-up?

[Red Chilli]

It's because he's never won it. Uefa is the governing body for football in europe. Football in the UK falls under their governance and in the hierachy of competitions the European cup is the highest honour a club can win.

It's not a matter of opinions, its a fact.

It is indeed a fact that UEFA deems it the most important competition, but then it is THEIR competition.
The league is more important to me and UEFA won't change that.
Were you saying the same thing when we were banned from the european cup?

[Red Chilli]

If you take away the 35 odd million quid we accumulated from winning in Istanbul then we really would have been stuffed. Do you really know nothing about football or are you just on a wind-up?

You're very judgemental about other people's footballing knowledge aren't you? I wonder what gives you such a high opinion of yourself that you can judge others.