Give Lucas a new contract, now!

[Rowan]

He played as a box to box midfielder in Brazil before he joined us. He said it himself in a few interviews that he had to change his game. Now he plays in his best position, box to box.

As you said. Before this season the midfield wasn't built to suit him. Meireles suits Lucas excellent. Look at the chalkboard when he isn't playing with Gerrard and when he is playing with him.

Lucas can make 20-30 yard passes no problem when he is allowed to do it and when he is the one that should make them. When Gerrard play in central midfield with him then it is Gerrard that makes the 20-30 yard passes and not Lucas. The reason is that Lucas isn't the one that should make them. The same can be said when he played with Xabi and with Masch.

Lucas is showing that he can be the playmaker if we allow him to be it.

Sooooooo. What you're saying is that the previous manager wasn't astute enough to recognise that he wasn't suited to either the system or his midfield companions, that it removed the strongest parts of his game and that the team failed to benefit as it should but he persisted anyway? You sound like you're saying Rafa has a lot to answer for in his deployment of Lucas.

As it is I've never thought his potential was in doubt but Pirlo excellent stuff.

[Pedenj]

Last season every time the team sheet came out and Lucas was on it my brother in law would moan that Lucas was starting, despite time and time again me protesting that he had some outstanding games last season he wasn't having it.

This season he is starting to give him some credit, but still no to the extent he deserves and it's noticeable on some forums as well that people are reluctant to admit that they were wrong about the lad.

Also don't think the fact he is brazalian helped in, got sick of reading the statement "the least Brazilian, Brazilian" in regards to his performances. It was used by fans and the press and was always the weakest of criticisms that basically showed they couldn't actually pick up on my faults.

[Norbs]

I reckon there's very few people on here, myself included, that would consider him in a fantasy football team. He's not a spectacular player, he's a reliable unselfish team player and that's why it'll take a very long time for him to earn the respect that those who watch him the most have for him.

He needs to carry on as he is and make sure he doesn't attempt tackles in the box

[Rich]

I love the way once an opinion or consensus has formed about a player it's so very difficult to change or break.

Lucas was generally very good last year even if I don't think the 2 of him and Mascherano worked for us. This year he's generally been our best midfielder full stop.

I just know Hodgson will **** it up by switching Meireles...

[wiw]

I love the way once an opinion or consensus has formed about a player it's so very difficult to change or break.

Lucas was generally very good last year even if I don't think the 2 of him and Mascherano worked for us. This year he's generally been our best midfielder full stop.

I just know Hodgson will **** it up by switching Meireles...

People decided from day 1 what they thought of Lucas, despite his age etc. I was at some/most of his early games and the abuse/lack of support was insane

If Meireles goes back out to the right I give up

[banditos]

I reckon there's very few people on here, myself included, that would consider him in a fantasy football team. He's not a spectacular player, he's a reliable unselfish team player and that's why it'll take a very long time for him to earn the respect that those who watch him the most have for him.

He needs to carry on as he is and make sure he doesn't attempt tackles in the box

Defensive midfielders in a Fantasy Football team.

[Roboklopp]

Bodge will undoubtedly break up the partnership for Stevie in accordance with Sky wishes. You can quote me in that.

[banditos]

Bodge will undoubtedly break up the partnership for Stevie in accordance with Sky wishes. You can quote me in that.

He's probably already sat down with Andy Gray to discuss the matter.

[billy_mac]

Lucas suits 442 better

Yes he does because there's more players in forward positions to pass the ball to.

He was schakled in Rafa's 2 holding midfielder system. He's got as good an engine as Kyut if not better.

[Craig_H]

Last season every time the team sheet came out and Lucas was on it my brother in law would moan that Lucas was starting, despite time and time again me protesting that he had some outstanding games last season he wasn't having it.

This season he is starting to give him some credit, but still no to the extent he deserves and it's noticeable on some forums as well that people are reluctant to admit that they were wrong about the lad.

Also don't think the fact he is brazalian helped in, got sick of reading the statement "the least Brazilian, Brazilian" in regards to his performances. It was used by fans and the press and was always the weakest of criticisms that basically showed they couldn't actually pick up on my faults.

I'm not sure it's a case of 'right' or 'wrong' - to my mind, Lucas is currently performing better than he ever has at LFC - and rightly gets credit for it.

Previously, he wasnt at this level and got criticism from many, myself included.

If we're talking about whether or not i thought Lucas could produce this current level of form or not, then i would say no, i didnt - and in this context, i have indeed been proven wrong.

But i dont think he was playing like he is now, during those spells where he was being criticised.

I think it's a fairly simple thing, when someone plays poorly, they get criticised for it, when they play well they get praise. I dont see Lucas as being much different from most others, in that respect.

I personally think Torres is playing poorly right now, and as such, i have been critical of him. It's certainly not about 'favourites' or 'scapegoats', put it that way.

[Arn]

Sooooooo. What you're saying is that the previous manager wasn't astute enough to recognise that he wasn't suited to either the system or his midfield companions, that it removed the strongest parts of his game and that the team failed to benefit as it should but he persisted anyway? You sound like you're saying Rafa has a lot to answer for in his deployment of Lucas.

As it is I've never thought his potential was in doubt but Pirlo excellent stuff.

The system will always be more important than what is best for a single player. Rafa will always put the system before what is best for a single player and that is the way it should be.

[Craig_H]

God bless Rafa!

[Arn]

God bless Rafa!

Rafa

[samuelcharles]

That's all.

this transfer market has never been a better time to buy, you have mata still not signed to a deal at valencia, and while he is a good player he still is not the top top notch player in terms of what he would cost.
you have lots of good proven quality players who have not got into the champions league with their repsective clubs, lyon have players that are unhappy, lopez they want to sell for around 15 million... you have lllorente who wants to leave bilbao... you have players who are up for sale at real madrid, who are not getting games, you have clubs like ajax who are in huge money problems, suarez wants out and as we have been linked with him,,, its know he can brought for as little as 10 million, you have some players at city who want first team football, altough i wouldnt buy the likes of santa cruz and sw phillips, what i am trying to say is that in any market and at any time there is chances to improve our squad, yet again REINA IS CALLING FOR IT TO BE DONE.....

for me you have benfica who have dropped into the europa league, they are a good side on their day as we have found, but players like cardoza and luiz will be on the move as too will rauls best mate fabio coentrao.

To not invest in jan on the right players in 2 or 3 positions in thea team would be so very lazy and would spell a complete lack of business knowledge!!! its time to invest most lfc fans will tell you this and we have to now!!!

my idea would be to sell all the loan deals. get rid of the players like; degen, el zhar, plessies, darby, itandge, jovanovic, poulsen, insua, etc ( who offers nothing in the long or short term!) and get rid of konchesky who is just crap and improve in the three roles within the squad.

id like to see aquilani sold to juv in the summer which is the agreement in place, for around 13.1 million is the agreed fee.

if we could add a great left back / wing back = coentrao'

if we could add another center mid= banega or sweinsteiger

if we coudl add a frontman = llorente- suarez

and a right winger now or in the summer.

REINA
JOHNSON CARRAGHER SKRTEL COENTRAO'

YOUNG RAUL SWEINSTEIGER RAUL

LLORENTE TORRES

THATS WHAT YOU CALL INVESTMENT FOR THE FUTURE.

and buy the way if you are thinking of getting sweinsteiger why not? he is out of contract and would be sold for around 20 mill , he is 26 years of age and he is just brillaint and he is dying for a move, and would give you a player who can operate in many different roles and positions,

there is huge scope to operate within the jan window and not doing so would be the sign of the owners telling us what the future may hold?

the time is now.

[red g]

this transfer market has never been a better time to buy, you have mata still not signed to a deal at valencia, and while he is a good player he still is not the top top notch player in terms of what he would cost.
you have lots of good proven quality players who have not got into the champions league with their repsective clubs, lyon have players that are unhappy, lopez they want to sell for around 15 million... you have lllorente who wants to leave bilbao... you have players who are up for sale at real madrid, who are not getting games, you have clubs like ajax who are in huge money problems, suarez wants out and as we have been linked with him,,, its know he can brought for as little as 10 million, you have some players at city who want first team football, altough i wouldnt buy the likes of santa cruz and sw phillips, what i am trying to say is that in any market and at any time there is chances to improve our squad, yet again REINA IS CALLING FOR IT TO BE DONE.....

for me you have benfica who have dropped into the europa league, they are a good side on their day as we have found, but players like cardoza and luiz will be on the move as too will rauls best mate fabio coentrao.

To not invest in jan on the right players in 2 or 3 positions in thea team would be so very lazy and would spell a complete lack of business knowledge!!! its time to invest most lfc fans will tell you this and we have to now!!!

my idea would be to sell all the loan deals. get rid of the players like; degen, el zhar, plessies, darby, itandge, jovanovic, poulsen, insua, etc ( who offers nothing in the long or short term!) and get rid of konchesky who is just crap and improve in the three roles within the squad.

id like to see aquilani sold to juv in the summer which is the agreement in place, for around 13.1 million is the agreed fee.

if we could add a great left back / wing back = coentrao'

if we could add another center mid= banega or sweinsteiger

if we coudl add a frontman = llorente- suarez

and a right winger now or in the summer.

REINA
JOHNSON CARRAGHER SKRTEL COENTRAO'

YOUNG RAUL SWEINSTEIGER RAUL

LLORENTE TORRES

THATS WHAT YOU CALL INVESTMENT FOR THE FUTURE.
and buy the way if you are thinking of getting sweinsteiger why not? he is out of contract and would be sold for around 20 mill , he is 26 years of age and he is just brillaint and he is dying for a move, and would give you a player who can operate in many different roles and positions,

there is huge scope to operate within the jan window and not doing so would be the sign of the owners telling us what the future may hold?

the time is now.

THATS WHAT YOU CALL A PIPE DREAM !!!

a) who would sign for Roy?
b) how many of them players are coveted by CL clubs? ( we will be out of the race by Jan)
c) Not sure i like the idea of Raul playing in 2 positions at once