Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[The_weatherman]

If Evra thought it was racist at the time, how can the FA rule it frivolous? Evra has every right to complain if he thought he was racially abused. If the FA then find out later that it wasn`t racist, just a language thing, the complaint wasn`t frivolous. If Suarez had said nothing at all onthe other hand......

Looking at the context of things, it looks like Evra was playing the race card and Suarez was mocking him. Evra then tries to get even out of spite. Kind of looks that way.

[The_weatherman]

Well the gesture thing is pretty clear cut. He did it and it cant be denied. The only defence there is precedent.

The use of the word "negro" cannot be construed as racist(IMO). Its Spanish for black.
You call someone (who is black) black it isnt racist. Call him a black **** and it is. Call him the N word and it is.

Surely you cant stop people speaking in their own language.

As I said earlier, unless there is evidence that we havnt heard about, I dont see how he can be found guilty.

Incidentally, a Hibernian player received a one match ban this week for offensive gestures towards Rangers fans. Different jurisdiction I know.

[fah-q]

Maybe he heard it as Porky Negro.

[the rev leeroy brown]

just out of curiousity, suarez isnt exactly "white" himself. trying not to sound racist here, but if one black man can call another black man "nigg@r" why cant a partially coloured man do the same?

[Exiled_red]

Why is the word black racist? Surely it matters in what context it is used? We can't be going that far in this racist debate that you can't use a descriptive term.

The word is often regarded as being a racial slur, if the FA view it as such it will be easy for them to ban him.

For me the context thing could go either way, whether it was said aggressively or not the FA could easily decide that it was intended to wind Evra up.

I'm hoping that three things will work in Suarez' favour: i) hopefully the referee heard it and thought there was nothing in it (hence why he took no action), ii) Evra's claims that Suarez used the word at least 10 times (which seems to be untrue), iii) if the club can provide evidence that the Man Utd players call Evra the same thing.

[Chris]

Doing a **** in my pants, got no faith in a fair deal when going against Man Utd let alone when a family arse lick of Fergusons is on the panel aswell!

Oh well, if its 3 games at least we are playing two hopeless teams in that stretch though winning games without Lucas, Gerrard and Suarez is a tough ask.

[Exiled_red]

Just wondering, if the worst does happen and he gets a ban, would there be a chance to appeal against the decision?

[RichC]

yeah I've no faith in the FA and can't see this being anything other than a kangaroo court

There has been an incredibly successful smear campaign against Luis this season in the press and the football commentators constantly calling his honesty and character into question.

[Nicey]

If Evra thought it was racist at the time, how can the FA rule it frivolous? Evra has every right to complain if he thought he was racially abused. If the FA then find out later that it wasn`t racist, just a language thing, the complaint wasn`t frivolous. If Suarez had said nothing at all onthe other hand......

Evra ****ing well knows he was not being racial abused, I remember him distinctly smiling at Suarez and it was a laugh it up big man we will see who is smiling soon kind of smile. He also thought the ****ing Ref was racially abusing him, as was the groundsman in chelsea as were the entire population of Senegal as was Steve Finnan, poor guy he really seems to come in for some stick because he is black

Does he ****, he is a cunt and a Cunt with a capital C

[Vermilion]

Also surely him screaming get your hands off me you south American has racist undertones ? for me it implies hes dirty or something

What i thought last night too, if what's coming out is true, it sounds as if Evra made a racially loaded comment towards Suarez first.

[Exiled_red]

What i thought last night too, if what's coming out is true, it sounds as if Evra made a racially loaded comment towards Suarez first.

[Resu]

Looking at the context of things, it looks like Evra was playing the race card and Suarez was mocking him. Evra then tries to get even out of spite. Kind of looks that way.

Could be, or Evra might be oversensitive about it so he sees everything as racist. Or it could be that Suarez is quilty, or it`s just a misunderstanding.

[Nicey]

But its ok from him to say **** like that ...

I think this is how it went down

Suarez was mugging him off all day
Evra was getting frustrated
Suarez was getting up in his face and obviously looking down his nose at him, making an issue of his size
He patted him on the head in a friendly but really condescending manner
Evra now brings race into the exchange by telling him Get you hands off me you South American !! which can not ever be construed as anything but racist to which Suarez responds quite cleverly either depending which you beleive Calmse Negrito or Negro Pulze or whatever it was the first one is calm down buddy and the 2nd one is because I am black both are hilarious wind ups both are not racist

[Suarez]

My prediction = Suarez banned for 6 games, followed by Terry for 8.

[Nicey]

and I am guessing Suarez was aware of how sensitve Evra was about race .. the whole affair has only ever screamed of a wind up to me and nothing I have heard or read since has changed my mind.