Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Chrono]

Interestingly, this "little black man" translation does actually give some value to what Nicey was saying. If the term isn't racist then perhaps his team mates joke about him being little and this was what Suarez was saying to wind him up not thinking anything of the black reference. Would also tie in with Kenny referring to Evra as "wee".

I don't believe Suarez was being racist and I don't think this will have a proper conclusion other than damaging his reputation. Can't see a ban incoming.

[Maxiedge]

Gus Poyet calls Evra a cry baby. Spot on imo

Daily Mirror

Poyet slams 'cry baby' Evra over racism claim

Published 22:30 17/11/11 By David Maddock
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Brighton boss Gus Poyet has branded Patrice Evra a cry-baby for complaining about alleged racist comments made by Liverpool’s Luis Suarez.

And Poyet warned that the FA’s acceptance of the Manchester United defender’s claims against his fellow Uruguayan will make it “too easy” for any player or manager to accuse opponents of racism without foundation.

Suarez has been charged by the FA with racially abusing Evra during Liverpool’s 1-1 draw with Manchester United at Anfield last month.

He is expected to plead not guilty.
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Poyet said: “I played football for seven years in Spain and was called everything, because I was from South America.

“And I never went out crying like a baby, like Patrice Evra, saying that someone said something to me.”

Poyet accepts his fellow countryman’s explanation that anything he said to Evra had no racist intent.

“I believe Luis Suarez. It’s simple,” he said.

The Brighton manager is concerned that the FA appears to have sided with Evra rather than Suarez on what he considers the flimsiest of evidence.

“I’m surprised, in a really sad way, that he’s been charged,” Poyet added. “I think it’s worse to charge someone because you trust one person when you have no proof.

“I’m sad, because it’s going to become too easy. I can make a complaint about any opposition manager, and if I take it as far as I can, he’s going to get charged.

“Why are we going to take one person’s word over another one’s? It’s too risky.”

Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish insists Suarez will continue to receive comprehensive support, as the club prepare to vigorously defend the charge.

Dalglish though, dismissed suggestions the FA's action could affect his striker’s performances on the pitch.

“I don’t think his form will suffer for any reason other than like everyone else sometimes you don’t play as well as you are capable of playing,” said the Scot.

“But the standards he has set himself in the games he has played for us is a very high standard, and very difficult to achieve week in week out. Even when he is not playing well he is a lot better than most people.

"We have not changed our stance in any way shape or form. We have to move on now and take it as it comes now and see what happens.”

Indeed, Dalglish was strident in his belief Suarez will be motivated to play well at Chelsea on Sunday, rather than reduced by the pressure of the situation he finds himself in.

“Adversity helps some, hinders others. Everyone is different. It is a fact what we have said, it hasn’t been twisted facts,” he added.

“But we have to get on with whatever hand we are dealt and not feel sorry for ourselves and if adversity stirs someone up then fine, if that’s where they get their inspiration.”

Suarez returned from international duty with an injury, but the Reds boss has dismissed any fears of his fitness.

Instead, Dalglish is hoping the striker will continue the form that saw him score four goals in a World Cup qualifier against Chile last weekend.

“Luis might have got a knock, but I don’t think it is severe enough to keep him out. We will have to wait and see, but I don’t think it is,” he said.

“He did well for his country, and I just hope he’s kept a few goals back for us in the next few weeks!”

[Shaggy]

Chocolate bar in South America called Negrito.

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Interestingly, this "little black man" translation does actually give some value to what Nicey was saying. If the term isn't racist then perhaps his team mates joke about him being little and this was what Suarez was saying to wind him up not thinking anything of the black reference. Would also tie in with Kenny referring to Evra as "wee".

I don't believe Suarez was being racist and I don't think this will have a proper conclusion other than damaging his reputation. Can't see a ban incoming.

Does make a lot of sense, if you put it like that. Maybe thats why they've led the charge based on insulting/abusive language first with the undertone of race.

[cream]

Chocolate bar in South America called Negrito.

Can you tweet that to Evra?

[Exiled_red]

[Fivex]

Can you tweet that to Evra?

[Arn]

Chocolate bar in South America called Negrito.

You should tweet the picture to Suarez. Could be a very important evidence.

[Alex]

Calm down Arn

I can imagine it now

Your honour, may I present a bar of chocolate. The defense rests.

[Arn]

Calm down Arn

I can imagine it now

Your honour, may I present a bar of chocolate. The defense rests.

It would be a part of the defence but I would love to see the faces if Suarez offered them one each and they then saw the name

[Baracus]

Then post a picture of the milky bar kid

[Fivex]

Calm down Arn

I can imagine it now

Your honour, may I present a bar of chocolate. The defense rests.

[Arn]

Suarez should buy a bucket load of them and send them to Man U or we could sell them outside Anfield before the Man C game.

[Shaggy]

Digger

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8898054/Former-Liverpool-star-John-Barnes-says-society-is-to-blame-for-racism-problem-that-football-just-cant-shift.html

Former Liverpool star John Barnes says society is to blame for racism problem that football just can't shift

John Barnes, the former England international who endured racist abuse during his distinguished career, admits he is “not surprised’’ by the latest ugly incidents because football reflects a society taking time to shed ingrained prejudices.

’I’m not condoning what Sepp Blatter has said or John Terry, if he’s proven to be guilty,’’ Barnes said. “I think Blatter should resign over many things, and this is just one. But those thoughts are based on stereotypical views drummed into us over a long period of time.

“People have been told for 400 years since slavery that black people aren’t as intelligent as white.

“White players always said to me: ‘You can call me ‘a white so and so’, I don’t mind’. But that’s because society has indoctrinated us over the past 400 years to think that that’s like saying ‘you handsome so and so’. That’s why white players aren’t offended. They’re empowered. Black people aren’t empowered; 99 per cent of black individuals would be offended being called ‘a black so and so’ because we’ve had 400 years of being dehumanised.

“We don’t know whether the allegations about John Terry and Luis Suárez are true. What we do know is that it’s happened before. The words they are alleged to have said have been said in the past year but it hasn’t been reported. Now and then there’s an incident and people are surprised. I’m not. I know it’s there.

“Any black player knows this. We’ve played against players, got into an altercation, looked him in the eye, he’s not said anything, but you know he’s thinking “you black ----’. He wants to say it but doesn’t because he knows he’ll get into trouble. That happens very often. When I played they actually said it. They called me n----- to my face. It happened in training, in matches. Any black player of my generation had it. In 1984 with England in Brazil, I had it with the National Front.”

Four years later, the then Liverpool winger was targeted by Everton fans at Goodison Park.

“I had bananas thrown at me and monkey chants at West Ham and Millwall five years before that Everton game but because it was a high-profile match everyone took notice. It had been going on for ages. There wasn’t a game in the Eighties when you didn’t get racial abuse as a black player. I got racist abuse at Liverpool when I played for Watford. Then I played for Liverpool and didn’t get it. If I had played for Everton against Liverpool then maybe the Liverpool fans would have racially abused me.

“A lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon now about Blatter, saying he’s wrong – and he is. But if you want to have a South African-style Truth and Reconciliation Commission, get in every manager and player who is over 40 and ask them: ‘Say you have never used the N-word?’ Most won’t be able to. Much more than 75 per cent of people back then in the Eighties would have.

“But people could not get under my skin. I’m a middle-class Jamaican boy and where I was brought up in Jamaica [in a wealthy military household] I was not meant to feel second-class. If I was brought up in England, I’d possibly see things differently. Ian Wright dealt with racism differently to how I did.

“Racism’s still a big problem in football. Racism can be invisible. How many black managers in England are there? Two. Black managers are given very short periods of time because people don’t believe they are up to the job.
That’s racism. It’s not just a white thing. Look at the hierarchy of black African football who believe European coaches are better than black African. They treat black coaches with disdain. There’s this black dynamic of not feeling good enough.

“We are all racist to a certain extent. We all make presumptions about other people based on their colour, culture or ethnicity in variable degrees. We judge people even on their accents. When Eric Cantona said what he said about trawlers and seagulls, he’s a philosopher because of the French accent. It sounds intelligent. If Paul Merson said it in his Cockney accent, we’d say he was talking rubbish.

“Race, for me, should be social and cultural, rather than the colour of your skin. Anton Ferdinand would have more in common with John Terry than he does with some West African from Nigeria. John Terry will have more in common with Anton Ferdinand than a Slav from Eastern Europe who happens to be white. Racism is such a complex subject.”

So what’s the way ahead? “Football can do nothing about getting rid of racism. Society has to [do it], through education and people understanding why they feel the way they do. Prejudice is a problem all over the world. I’m surprised when I see black people in the higher echelons of society. I know the most powerful man in the world is black [Barack Obama] but 400 years of indoctrination into thinking about a group of people as inferior is not going to change overnight. There was the human rights movement in the 1960s and yet 20 years ago we were still being racially abused – and it was accepted.”

Now 48, Barnes does see hope for the future. “My children don’t get racially abused. There’s a new British culture; those from 10 to 25 now identify with each other, whether black, white, Indian, Chinese.

“Black kids once upon a time would hold on to their West Indian or African identity because of their parents. Black kids now are British. Indian girls are wearing miniskirts and going out dancing. White kids are listening to black music. We are going through a transitional period.’’ Leaving the unreconstructed likes of Blatter behind.

[The Birdman]

That there is a blatant rip off of the stupendous Freddo chocy bar