Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Red_Polo]

On the Suarez thing, i don't know that they could have done anything different, we all backed Suarez, based on what we heard about what went on, the story changing from Evra etc, and i think we had every right as a club to believe that on the evidence presented, or lack of...that this wouldn't be escalated into the farce it did, and that the FA shouldn't find any man guilty for such an image tarnishing accusation based on such an ambiguous version of events.

Obviously certain people had different plans, then all the rival fans threw their tuppence worth in on twitter and the like, and before long we had and intergalactic incident! threatening the whole of mankind!

I vehemently believe he should not have been found guilty by the FA panel. What actually happened nobody other than those involved will ever know, anyone saying otherwise is naive. The possibilities were endless and the assumptions based on circumstantial evidence were absurd from all sides to whatever conclusion.

The only meaningful facts for me is that the handling of the issue by the club was highly unprofessional and counterproductive and that certain individuals have acted in a damaging way. Not just on our side but the FA, anti-racist organisations, Man Utd, the media and individuals with all of those have acted with selfish ignorance and at times nothing short of malice. The whole situation is deeply disgusting from more or less every angle.

The only person I can think of that has come off well in all of this is John Barnes whose comments have impressed me enormously.

[Mattshark]

Just because they aren't prepared to be sugar daddies doesn't mean their only interest is financial. I'd say they are in it for the love of winning and the opportunity for success against the odds as much as anything.

I can't really say I disagree with anything they have done so far. I don't think they really deserve any **** slung their way.

Didn't they also give us a summer net spend of something like 35M? Not their fault we didn't use it well.

[Vermilion]

I vehemently believe he should not have been found guilty by the FA panel. What actually happened nobody other than those involved will ever know, anyone saying otherwise is naive. The possibilities were endless and the assumptions based on circumstantial evidence were absurd from all sides to whatever conclusion.

The only meaningful facts for me is that the handling of the issue by the club was highly unprofessional and counterproductive and that certain individuals have acted in a damaging way. Not just on our side but the FA, anti-racist organisations, Man Utd, the media and individuals with all of those have acted with selfish ignorance and at times nothing short of malice. The whole situation is deeply disgusting from more or less every angle.

The only person I can think of that has come off well in all of this is John Barnes whose comments have impressed me enormously.

[RichC]

I vehemently believe he should not have been found guilty by the FA panel. What actually happened nobody other than those involved will ever know, anyone saying otherwise is naive. The possibilities were endless and the assumptions based on circumstantial evidence were absurd from all sides to whatever conclusion.

The only meaningful facts for me is that the handling of the issue by the club was highly unprofessional and counterproductive and that certain individuals have acted in a damaging way. Not just on our side but the FA, anti-racist organisations, Man Utd, the media and individuals with all of those have acted with selfish ignorance and at times nothing short of malice. The whole situation is deeply disgusting from more or less every angle.

The only person I can think of that has come off well in all of this is John Barnes whose comments have impressed me enormously.

excellent post

[Vermilion]

Do you want a job on SSN ?

It's all been very surreal, the amount of uproar over that handshake is something i've never experienced before, i mean...Galloway..calling for Luis to be deported...Fergie lamenting over LFC like he was soooo sad to see our name dragged through the mud by Luis, the level of hypocrisy over this whole damn saga has gone off the scale.

One thing we have learned though as fans, is where certain journalists hang their hats, and that's something LFC fans will always remember.

[Jack D Rips]

I vehemently believe he should not have been found guilty by the FA panel. What actually happened nobody other than those involved will ever know, anyone saying otherwise is naive. The possibilities were endless and the assumptions based on circumstantial evidence were absurd from all sides to whatever conclusion.

The only meaningful facts for me is that the handling of the issue by the club was highly unprofessional and counterproductive and that certain individuals have acted in a damaging way. Not just on our side but the FA, anti-racist organisations, Man Utd, the media and individuals with all of those have acted with selfish ignorance and at times nothing short of malice. The whole situation is deeply disgusting from more or less every angle.

The only person I can think of that has come off well in all of this is John Barnes whose comments have impressed me enormously.

This is so how I feel too.
Its a pity though that Barnes probably wont be listened to by those who should listen to him.

[dom9]

So in summary:

Suarez was naive in the first place.
Evra made the most of it. Spitefully so.
The FA mishandled the inquiry and verdict.
LFC mishandled the announcement of the verdict.
The players mishandled the wearing of Suarez t shirts.
KD mishandled his defence of Suarez.
Suarez mishandled the er, handshake.
Evra overreacted to the mishandling of the handshake.
Evra mishandled his post match celebrations.
The owners mishandled everything.
KD mishandled the interview with that git.
The media mishandled the case and their presentation of the facts throughout.


John Barnes handled it all flawlessly.

[Darkon]

I vehemently believe he should not have been found guilty by the FA panel. What actually happened nobody other than those involved will ever know, anyone saying otherwise is naive. The possibilities were endless and the assumptions based on circumstantial evidence were absurd from all sides to whatever conclusion.

The only meaningful facts for me is that the handling of the issue by the club was highly unprofessional and counterproductive and that certain individuals have acted in a damaging way. Not just on our side but the FA, anti-racist organisations, Man Utd, the media and individuals with all of those have acted with selfish ignorance and at times nothing short of malice. The whole situation is deeply disgusting from more or less every angle.

The only person I can think of that has come off well in all of this is John Barnes whose comments have impressed me enormously.

Well said, agree 100%

[McDermotX]

So in summary:

Suarez was naive in the first place.
Evra made the most of it. Spitefully so.
The FA mishandled the inquiry and verdict.
LFC mishandled the announcement of the verdict.
The players mishandled the wearing of Suarez t shirts.
KD mishandled his defence of Suarez.
Suarez mishandled the er, handshake.
Evra overreacted to the mishandling of the handshake.
Evra mishandled his post match celebrations.
The owners mishandled everything.
KD mishandled the interview with that git.
The media mishandled the case and their presentation of the facts throughout.


John Barnes handled it all flawlessly.

In spite of placards fully visible at Old Trafford labelling him an 'uncle Tom' on Saturday

[JHP]

I vehemently believe he should not have been found guilty by the FA panel.

And on the evidence he wouldn't have been found guilty if his trial required the same level of proof that Terry's will.

[Mostar]

Refresher for those ones who forgot about this incident.

See Paul Scholes shake (or lack of it to be precise) at the end of the video..


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFkYRXlwQxA"]Keane and Viera fight in the tunnel - YouTube[/ame]

[JHP]

So in summary:

Suarez was naive in the first place.
Evra made the most of it. Spitefully so.
The FA mishandled the inquiry and verdict.
LFC mishandled the announcement of the verdict.
The players mishandled the wearing of Suarez t shirts.
KD mishandled his defence of Suarez.
Suarez mishandled the er, handshake.
Evra overreacted to the mishandling of the handshake.
Evra mishandled his post match celebrations.
The owners mishandled everything.
KD mishandled the interview with that git.
The media mishandled the case and their presentation of the facts throughout.


John Barnes handled it all flawlessly.

Agree but think you missed a bit about Fergusson

[dom9]

Mostar, while I agree that Suarez was within his rights not shake the hand, there are some differences here to the video you have posted.

Firstly, this saga has been dragging on for over 4 months.
It has been unsavoury in the extreme, for a number of reason which we all know.
It has been bitter and constantly well publicised.
This was an opportunity for everyone to draw a line under the issue and finally move on.

It is this context which separates it from an instant reaction to a spat in the tunnel.

[dom9]

Agree but think you missed a bit about Fergusson

I don't mention him.

[JHP]

Refresher for those ones who forgot about this incident.

See Paul Scholes shake (or lack of it to be precise) at the end of the video..


Keane and Viera fight in the tunnel - YouTube

I've not seen that before. The hypocrisy is beyond belief.