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    Is lack of intent a defence when accused of saying something racist

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      I would imagine it must be.
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        Don't think Suarez's mother is black.
        Are we winning?

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          I don't suppose it's too much trouble for the FA to clarify that charging someone isn't an conviction of guilt but instead a commitment to investigate further.
          Was muß, das muß.

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            Originally posted by Chris View Post
            Good grief. Frighteningly thick.
            The world is full of them
            Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
            #****CITY

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              I believe Suarez is not guilty and I think that unless Evra withdrew his allegations it was almost inevitable the FA would charge him. If they didn't charge him then they could have been seen as being soft on racism.

              Now they have absolved themselves of such charges and will leave it to Suarez to publicly refute the allegations. If he can do that then he's of the hook, so is the FA and they also avoid being in a position of potentially needing to criticise Evra for making unfounded allegations.

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                Originally posted by Ben_Itez View Post
                The FA statement almost looks worded so they can find him guilty.

                If they charged every player who abused another during a match then they'd have to charge ten players per game.

                Including a 'reference' to his colour/ethnic origin......so has he been charged with racially abusing Evra or not? It seems very unclear to me from that statement.

                Fully expecting a minimum ten game ban. Terry will get away with his alleged comments even though it appears to be more clear cut.
                NO ****ING WAY THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH THAT NO ****ING WAY
                Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                #****CITY

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                  Another way to look at it is perhaps We want our day in court or somebody wants to this to go to court because surely if found not guilty Evra will have a case to answer to rather than it just quietly going away
                  Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                  #****CITY

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                    Originally posted by Baracus View Post
                    They have charged him. I'm guessing its the same way the police charge a rapist or terrorist. They must have reasonable evidence to do so, otherwise they should throw out the case.

                    And if he is found not guilty the whole FA stinks for bring it this far. When they could easily say there is no case to answer.

                    I'm not lining up to hammer him. Every one that has no association with LFC is going to be lining up to hammer him every time he plays for us.
                    I distinctly remember Gerrard being charged by the police for chinning a DJ in a pub

                    Despite the police believing they had enough evidence to charge Gerrard he was found not guilty

                    Despite the accusations and charge against Gerrard it has in no way tarnished his reputation or name

                    Lets wait and see what the FA have and what happens
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                      Originally posted by Baracus View Post


                      FA could be ****ed up. They can't be seen to brush it under the carpet, then not find him guilty. If he's not guilty, why charge him? They have potentially called into question the integrity of the club, manager and the player.
                      Why did the police charge Gerrard for that incident in the pub??
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        I think this has as much to do with the John Terry case as ours .. I have a feeling we will come out of this is a much better position.
                        Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                        #****CITY

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                          Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                          I distinctly remember Gerrard being charged by the police for chinning a DJ in a pub

                          Despite the police believing they had enough evidence to charge Gerrard he was found not guilty

                          Despite the accusations and charge against Gerrard it has in no way tarnished his reputation or name

                          Lets wait and see what the FA have and what happens
                          Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                          #****CITY

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                            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                            I would imagine it must be.
                            I thought it wasnt

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                              Suarez faces minimum six-match FA ban

                              The FA have decided they have enough evidence following their month-long investigation to charge Liverpool's Uruguayan striker and they have far-reaching powers to punish him if he is found guilty.

                              Although there is no precedent, the FA have the scope to hit Suarez with a hefty fine and a long suspension because of the seriousness of the offence. Liverpool immediately put out a statement in response to the charge, saying their man would be pleading not guilty.

                              Suarez is due back at training on Thursday after international duty and the club say he will request a personal hearing to clear his name.

                              The Reds will fear the FA could make an example of Suarez because of the spate of racist allegations, most notably the accusations against John Terry.

                              Suarez, who was suspended for seven games while at Ajax for biting an opponent, has always pleaded his innocence and insisted he said nothing racist to Evra during Liverpool’s draw against Manchester United at Anfield a month ago.

                              He said last week that what he said to Evra was not an insult but his own “way of expressing myself. I called him something his team-mates at Manchester call him, and even they were surprised by his reaction”.

                              “There were two parts of the discussion, one in Spanish, one in English.”

                              However, the FA have decided he has a case to answer after quizzing him, the United defender and the match officials, as well as studying the TV footage.

                              In a statement, the FA said: “It is alleged that Suarez used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Manchester United’s Patrice Evra contrary to FA rules.

                              “It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra.”

                              Liverpool have been steadfast in their support of their South American star and say they will fight the charge.

                              A club statement said: “The club this afternoon received notification from the Football Association of their decision to charge Luis Suarez and will take time to properly review the documentation which has been sent to us.

                              “We will discuss the matter fully with him when he returns from international duty, but he will plead not guilty to the charge and we expect him to request a personal hearing.

                              “Luis remains determined to clear his name of the allegation made against him by Patrice Evra.

                              “The club remain fully supportive of Luis in this matter.”

                              The FA will wait for Suarez to formally reply to the charge, and his case will be handled by their governance body.

                              His fate will then be decided in the next few weeks by an independent tribunal of three or four people.
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                                Eboue's Twitter feed tonight is quite interesting

                                TheRealEboue Emmanuel Eboue
                                i just heard LouizSuarez has been charged by the FA for Racist language. looking for a scape goat in other to save JohnTerry's Ass. #niceone
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