Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Neil Young]

True. But it's not clear why prejudice based on race is worse than prejudice based on nationality. One I now hugely stigmatised, one regarded as more of a joke.

I think it's because racism was an important component of such evils as slavery and imperialism whereas nationalism has never caused any probl...hang on, wait a minute...

[Nicey]

Nicey... your sig... really?? Don't feel comfortable with that, even if it 'only' means little black man.

Thats the entire Issue here, the word is not Racist, it just sounds like another word which is. I just got off the phone to my buddy from Spain who is married to a women from Colombia. He basically said there is absolutely no way that word is racist. Especially in South America people refer to other people by the color all the time, like his Wife is called Manna which usually refers to light skinned people or Blonde or his buddy from Pakistan was refered to Negrito for the entire time he was in South America, which he was assured was not a bad word but like Braw, Dude or pal

What people are not takening into account rather arrogantly i would say, is things dont just mean there direct translation in English, they totally transform when said Spanish.

Luis Suarez is not a Racist, he was not being Racist, He was winding Evra (who is an utter Asshat) up and He is my Negrito and i will back him up to nine

[Neil Young]

If you use any terms which might be acceptable to some but may offend others then don't use the term.

All the same it's easier said than done (if you see what I mean ). And what about ribbing...?

But yeah, where's there's doubt and you stop to think for a second, you're right.

[Kenneth]

I think it's because racism was an important component of such evils as slavery and imperialism whereas nationalism has never caused any probl...hang on, wait a minute...

that must be it.

[fah-q]

True. But it's not clear why prejudice based on race is worse than prejudice based on nationality. One I now hugely stigmatised, one regarded as more of a joke.

Yeah, I wouldn't for a second assert that one is acceptable and the other one isn't.

[kingfunk]

Are you kidding? Do you live in Australia/have you ever.

I think its over the top to be making statements like that and in my whole life (all spent here) I have never heard a single person from Asia called a WOG

The word WOG (western orientated gentlement) was used as a racial slur to Italian's and sometimes Greeks when my family migrated here around the 70's (My whole family is Italian born) but the word has changed now to simply signify people from the area with generally no racial connotations.

Having said that, the older generation don't like it to be used.

But never ever was it used as a racist slur towards Asians.

Please don't come here and post stuff which is pure bull**** about Racism and Australian's, there are plenty of stereotypes about Australian culture as it is...

What are you smoking? I never said it was used as a racist slur, I said ausies address aisans as Wog's in places and Iv even heard it on the news. I never said it was used as a racist slur. I did say that if it was used in the UK/Europr it might be considered a racist slur. put your pants back on FFS.

[kingfunk]

Oh and yes, Sydney.

[Chrono]

One of my mates with dark skin insists on beng called "Sooty" and does not reply/acknowledge if people use his real name. Does that make him a self racialist

Definitely makes him a bit of an oddball

[Neil Young]

...or a glove puppet.

[kingfunk]

USAGE: Until 1973 Australia had a white-only immigration policy, so the term used mainly as a racial slur in Britain was applied to ethnic European immigrants of the post-WWII "populate or perish" era. By now it has greatly lost its sting, and many ethnic Australians have reclaimed it as a jocular term, with some cleverly riffing on it (e.g. 'clog wog' for a Dutchman, 'frog wog' for a Frenchman). Since the 70s, the wog label has been extended to include newer immigrants arriving from the Middle East and other parts of Asia, and many have come to identify strongly with it, facing resistance from more assimilated European wogs who harbor racist and anti-Muslim attitudes. The term is almost completely unknown in the United States and Canada, but in Britain it remains extremely offensive, somewhat akin to N.

Depends what part of Australia, I think we can agree it's quite a broad term.

[S-RED]

prevaricate - to speak falsely or misleadingly; deliberately misstate or create an incorrect impression; lie.


Also an anagram of ..............

[Lecter]

Are you sure your family weren't called 'wops'? That was a common English term for Italians in the past.

In Britain 'wogs' was definitely a term for people from the Indian sub-continent so I'd be surprised if it had changed meaning in Australia but it's far from impossible of course.

But then differences in meaning is what a lot of this thread is about.

Wasnt there a Fawlty Towers sketch about this?

[Jack D Rips]

Even if Suarez is found not guilty due to lack of evidence or because what he said is acceptable in his own culture should not hide the fact that he needs to be made aware of European Culture. Evra heard him say something 10 times or more, it wasn't a compliment whatever Suarez said. Send him on a real "How to insult without getting in the ****" course.

The Germans when they really want to upset Brits call us "Insel Affe" (Island Apes) it devastates me and reduces me to tears, people can be so hurtful.

When used against a Soldier in a nightclub, the response tends to be a broken nose for the German, horses for courses, you call me names, I break your nose.

So you know thats what happened do you? Why did he not bring it to the attention of the ref during the match then? Why did nobody else hear it?

[Exiled_red]

prevaricate - to speak falsely or misleadingly; deliberately misstate or create an incorrect impression; lie.


Also an anagram of ..............

[fah-q]

Avaricepter?