Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[cream]

Whatever happens, Suarez needs to get his head down let his football do the talking. He needs to look at Ronaldo and the way he dealt with all the **** that came his way. He may be a **** but you've got to admire the way he got on with his football and went on to become one of the best in the world whilst showing his dick to the PL and ****ing off to Madrid. He didn't let the cunts get to him.

[G]

The FA will brush the Terry incident under the carpet whilst feeding Suarez to the wolves. That is the plan.

Up until a few days ago the most popular view I read on forums was that this was "nailed on" for the FA to brush under the carpet as a "misunderstanding"

No he's been charged its "nailed on" that they'll throw the book at him.

I think this is an arse covering exercise as mentioned earlier.They have to charge him to be seen to be doing something.He'll be exonerated because absolutely no evidence has come out in the 4 weeks or so since this happened.If there was any real evidence it wouldve been leaked long ago to help in the smear Suarez campaign that so many people involved in the game and writing about the game seem to be involved in

[little dave hedgehog]

i read this for some reason as "evra excuses suarez of racism" and got briefly hopeful this would all go away.

[Neil Young]

I think this is an arse covering exercise as mentioned earlier.They have to charge him to be seen to be doing something.He'll be exonerated because absolutely no evidence has come out in the 4 weeks or so since this happened.If there was any real evidence it wouldve been leaked long ago to help in the smear Suarez campaign that so many people involved in the game and writing about the game seem to be involved in

I tend to see it the same way.

But we don't know what might come out.

If the case hinges on the meaning of a specific word or phrase in different cultures then it's very hard to know in advance which way it's going to go.

The current lynch mob after Blatter won't make the nuanced interpretation of meaning any more likely, that's for sure.

Then again, Blatter's Swiss and the Great British Press and football bigwigs all know that foreigners just don't get raci...

[Arn]

IF Suarez is found guilty and if he used the word Negro then I can see a lot of suspensions coming up.

Every time Rooney for example tell the ref to **** off someone will complain to the FA about it. He got away with it until now except of one time when he was stupid enough to do it right into the camera.

I still think Suarez is a scapegoat and that he will be found guilty. The FA need someone banned so they can show that their new campaign is working.

I can see a 10+ game ban coming up. We will then take it to court and win but the damage to our season will then already been done.

We could have a case to sue the FA for £40m+ millions. We could argue that his suspension cost us a CL place.

In any case, I trust FSG 100%. They will do whatever it takes to clean his name. If that means take it to court then no doubt they will do it. I don't think the FA realize how excellent businessmen they are up against.

[Gibbo]

Here's a question, if he is found guilty will FSG sell him?

I'd be really sad to see him go that way, but if he was too, honestly I'd fear how we would replace him, no way we would get another player of that calibre without being in the champions leauge, we would have to throw all the money we got for Suarez at someone like Cavani.

[Norbs]

IF Suarez is found guilty and if he used the word Negro then I can see a lot of suspensions coming up.Fair do if there are a lot of other players found guilty of racist behaviour

Every time Rooney for example tell the ref to **** off someone will complain to the FA about it. He got away with it until now except of one time when he was stupid enough to do it right into the camera. It's not illegal to tell someone to **** off

I still think Suarez is a scapegoat and that he will be found guilty. The FA need someone banned so they can show that their new campaign is working.He's not a scapegoat if it's proved that he used Evra's colour in a derogatory manner

I can see a 10+ game ban coming up. Think of a number...

We could have a case to sue the FA for £40m+ millions. We could argue that his suspension cost us a CL place.Then think of another number...

In any case, I trust FSG 100%. They will do whatever it takes to clean his name. If that means take it to court then no doubt they will do it. I don't think the FA realize how excellent businessmen they are up against.
Surely FSG will only take it to court if Suarez is banned whilst still being found innocent. If he's not banned then we'll just get on with it as a club and Luis will seek personal advice regarding how his name has been defamed

When Luis is found innocent, there'll be no defamation of character case it'll be a wiped slate and then dropped. In the eyes of the public Evra will look like a snide, Luis will then be judged on his behaviour from that moment on. No way will the club want this to be dragged further through the courts.

[Arn]

When Luis is found innocent, there'll be no defamation of character case it'll be a wiped slate and then dropped. In the eyes of the public Evra will look like a snide, Luis will then be judged on his behaviour from that moment on. No way will the club want this to be dragged further through the courts.

If he is found guilty and you know that a player can be found guilty without being it. Remember the case when Carra threw a coin back into the crowd. Four game ban IIRC. You can now be found guilty if you show a birthday message on a shirt when you celebrate a goal FFS. It may be a political message you know

Happy Birthday Harry could be a political message

If the FA want someone banned then they will find a way doing it. They know that they will get away with it and no one will take them to court.

What need to be done is that someone take them to court. I believe that FSG will fight the FA all the way if they find Suarez guilty. That means all the way to court.

Suarez is right now a £50m+ player that could end up earning us millions off the pitch. We will lose out on a lot of millions if he is found guilty. We won't sell as many shirts with his name on the back etc. He will be worth a loss less on the transfer market because his off the pitch value goes down as I talked about.

We are talking about a lot of money that FSG will lose out on if he is found guilty. Of course they will defend him all the way. They will take it to court if the FA find him guilty.

They won't just walk away and accept it, no chance.

[Zapater]

The point that people seem to be missing is, whether or not the term has negative or neutral connotations, it doesn't really matter. If Evra were white he wouldn't have used that term to describe him, hence still representing racial motives behind the word. Regardless of the conclusion, it's not a good look.

[Jack D Rips]

The point that people seem to be missing is, whether or not the term has negative or neutral connotations, it doesn't really matter. If Evra were white he wouldn't have used that term to describe him, hence still representing racial motives behind the word. Regardless of the conclusion, it's not a good look.

You know what the term was?

[Arn]

The point that people seem to be missing is, whether or not the term has negative or neutral connotations, it doesn't really matter. If Evra were white he wouldn't have used that term to describe him, hence still representing racial motives behind the word. Regardless of the conclusion, it's not a good look.

You really can't racially abuse a white player in the same way. If a black player tell a white player to **** off your white c*nt then nothing would happen. It wouldn't be called racism.

If a white player tell a black player black c*nt then it is racism.

We all live in a very weird world.

[Shaggy]

The point that people seem to be missing is, whether or not the term has negative or neutral connotations, it doesn't really matter. If Evra were white he wouldn't have used that term to describe him, hence still representing racial motives behind the word. Regardless of the conclusion, it's not a good look.

Why not? The reported word is used to address men, women, white, black.

[Tee]

You really can't racially abuse a white player in the same way. If a black player tell a white player to **** off your white c*nt then nothing would happen. It wouldn't be called racism.

If a white player tell a black player black c*nt then it is racism.

We all live in a very weird world.

No Arn, YOU live in a very weird world. ****ing hell. You just don't get it do you?

[Arn]

Why not? The reported word is used to address men, women, white, black.

It is also easy to forget that the FA don't need it to be as clear cut to find him guilty as they would need if we took them to court.

Now they can ban him because he most probably is guilty. They would have to show, if we took them to court, that he really is guilty. They would need water tight case.

That is a big difference.

[Zapater]

You know what the term was?

No, I don't but it seems to be the trend of the speculation that I've read on here and elsewhere.

You really can't racially abuse a white player in the same way. If a black player tell a white player to **** off your white c*nt then nothing would happen. It wouldn't be called racism.

If a white player tell a black player black c*nt then it is racism.

We all live in a very weird world.

Can you please give me an example of when that has ever happened on a football pitch? And if it did, I would read into it very seriously as racism.

Why not? The reported word is used to address men, women, white, black.

I don't agree, perhaps if Evra was of the same cultural background of Suarez or a friend of his then it could be acceptable. Evra may or may not have the same contextual understanding of the term which deems it to be acceptable or not. Therefore it's naïve of Suarez to assume it'd be an okay thing to do.

I wouldn't walk down the street and walk past a person of colour and say "Hello Mr negrito". And in our culture I wouldn't expect a favourable response, regardless what the motives behind the word is. I'm not pointing fingers at Luis, just saying he's very, very naïve to even touch on such a subject. Intercultural miscommunication or not.