Evra accuses Suarez of racism

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He has past history

In an extremely detailed analysis of events on 26 April in the hour after United's 2-1 defeat to Chelsea, the commission's report begins as a group of United players, substitutes and those who had only played for a part of the game, led by Strudwick, came out onto the pitch to warm down. Evra claimed in his evidence that as the players ran across the pitch, a groundsman with a lawnmower attempted to "cut his legs".

The report claims that the "atmosphere in the United dressing room and among its players was not good" after the defeat and said that several players "were in a rather wound-up state". The report then describes how Strudwick encouraged the United players to use the penalty area despite it being against Premier League rules to do so while the groundsmen were working on the pitch and without asking their permission. The report says: "Gary Neville in particular was behaving in an abusive and provocative manner towards Chelsea ground staff. However, we do not believe there was anything serious at that stage, and certainly nothing dangerous. We find Mr Evra's description exaggerated."

Then a row broke out between Jason Griffin, the head groundsman and Strudwick. The United man claimed Griffin was carrying a pitchfork and was "instantly aggressive and the tone of his voice was hostile and confrontational". After that Evra ran over and barged Griffin. Strudwick and Evra then claimed that Griffin said: "I'll shove the ****ing fork up your arse."

For more details see link

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/revealed-why-evra-was-blamed-for-pitch-battle-1202172.html

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Apparently, sky can't find any footage to support Evra's claims.

[Mr Darko]

Yeah I saw that - if there were any at all Sky would be all over it. Shame that despite there being no evidence, and I'm sure the FA will find none either - this allegation will stick with Luis throughout his career and nothing will happen to moron Evra who's too arrogant for his own good.

[Mostar]

He may have said, 'stop niggling at my ankles, you niggler. You're a right old niggler, cuntface'

[Norbs]

It's time for Suarez to be Zoolandered I reckon

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[Roboklopp]

To be fair, English is the most mainstream language & the N word is used in music and telly a fair bit, so there is more chance of someone whose English is non-existent or minimal knowing that. That having been said, I find Dom's assumption of guilt before innocence pretty strange- certainly glad he's not on jury service.

I think the lack of immediate reaction from Evra's peers says it all. Didn't think it was possible, but this whole thing makes me hate Scum even more. There's nothing they'll stop at to Discredit & undermine our club, best player & manager. We've been here before.

[Exiled_red]

Nope, it doesn't prove anything. Other than the specific things Evra said to Canal+ are unreliable. The issue with stuff like this is that it sticks, no matter what happens from now on some people will believe that Suarez is guilty of making racist comments, when nobody (other than Evra and Suarez) really knows either way or seems likely to be able to shed any more light on it.

If he has said something along these lines its pretty appauling, but if he hasn't then imo he would be entirely justified in taking Evra to task for it.

This is the problem either way one of them is completely out of order. Suarez if he did make racist comments, Evra if he is making false accusations.

The problem is if the case can't be proved then they can't punish Evra, because not finding any evidence doesn't mean Suarez didn't say anything, and the FA don't want to discourage genuine claims.

[jono]

Agreed. Though to be honest with you, judging by the current state of play, if there were an indeterminate conclusion to this I don't think Suarez would be the one getting laid into by the press. Evra being a tit with a healthy handful of circumstantial evidence pointing to him being a liar doesn't stack too well against Suarez' rather endearing and sincere tweet.

I hope you are right, but the press never play with a straight bat. They are in it to sell papers so will likely ally themselves with the player who will help them their bottom line.

It may be Suarez, it may be Evra, but they will not let the truth stand in the way of making money.

[dom9]

Where have I said that I think he's guilty? Please point it out.

[dom9]

I think I know what has happened here. I have pointed out that there are 2 sides to every story so people have automatically assumed that means I think he did it, despite stating several times that I don't know what actually happened.

[dom9]

The bullet points are true, but I don't see that it proves anything either way, it's all circumstantial. I think chances are nobody will be punished for anything.

Nope, it doesn't prove anything. Other than the specific things Evra said to Canal+ are unreliable. The issue with stuff like this is that it sticks, no matter what happens from now on some people will believe that Suarez is guilty of making racist comments, when nobody (other than Evra and Suarez) really knows either way or seems likely to be able to shed any more light on it.

If he has said something along these lines its pretty appauling, but if he hasn't then imo he would be entirely justified in taking Evra to task for it.

[Chris]

have to say and not just as a result of the alleged racist slur - i fear a little for suarez....it's been happening all season and building up........Rival teams/players/fans are ****ing **** scared of him, and there appears to be an agenda groawing to tarnish Suarez.....EVery time he goes down, even when its clear foul, he's ****ing slaughtered by the oppostion for diving - god knows how many times rival fans have told me about him biting that lads ear or the handball in the world cup.

Yep, after the Rodwell stuff Man Utd have obviously thought up a plan to try and piss him off or wind him up even more, and who knows maybe in the summer he'll think "**** this ****, im out of here". Horrible cunts. Evra should be jailed for this.

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[saj]

Maybe he called him a cunt - plain and simple