Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Mr Darko]

Eh?

With rational reasoning (see various posts here as to why) our fans will give Suarez the benefit of the doubt. I think we all agree that if Suarez - or any player - did actually say something of the sort, then he should be punished accordingly as racism doesn't play a part in football.

The reason we're backing Suarez is because it's a bull**** story from a cunt who has cried wolf before.

This!

It's funny how you lot assume he's innocent and anyone that disagrees with that assessment is a cunt.

Nothing funny about it. No one said people who disagree are a 'cunt' - they are entitled to their opinion but It's logical to believe that the allegations are rubbish based on the following.

1. Evra has been involved in 2 or 3 of these incidents before, all of them found wanting for any actual racial abuse/remarks. Seems more like the behaviour of an attention whore from a Manc player (no surprise) who doesn't like an opposition player so uses race to get sympathy from the media/public and to get an opposition (and big rival) player in trouble.

2. Looks like luis said about 2 or 3 different words. So how that turns into saying the same word over 10 times is ludicrous.

3. Suarez barely speaks any English, Evra speaks poor English so how Luis would know any racist words in English when he can just about say the bare basics is a little far-fetched.

What is comes down to for me is either:

a. Luis called him a moron/idiot/diver or something similar for the previous incident at corner. From this Evra genuinely misunderstood and thought it was something racist.

b. Evra knows Luis said nothing of the sort and is basically doing it to get him in trouble.

The latter being most likely.

[Vermilion]

It's funny how you lot assume he's innocent and anyone that disagrees with that assessment is a cunt.

For the record, as usual, I have no idea if he said it. Pretty much the same as everyone on the planet apart from Suarez and Evra.

Well i certainly haven't gone down that road, but in the same vein, those ****s that call themselves sports journalists should'nt go around writing articles insinuating he's the kind of **** that would do something like that!

I only replied to this as it was immediately beneath a post of mine where i was critical of an article posted, and i wondered whether you'd got the idea i was 'assuming' Suarez innocent, i really don't know, however an important point to note is he that he's innocent till proven otherwise, but some people have him hung drawn and quartered, so i don't blame Reds fans for coming out and backing him.

[dom9]

Well, both players have a history of being less than saintly. People have come down on one side of the fence or the other based on past behaviour. That's understandable I guess. None of us know exactly what happened though.

And as for the not knowing English excuse, how many swear words do you know in other languages? Loads I imagine. And Negro is used in Spanish, English and other languages, so that is simply not a valid argument for me.

[Lee]

Nothing funny about it. No one said people who disagree are a 'cunt' - they are entitled to their opinion but It's logical to believe that the allegations are rubbish based on the following.

1. Evra has been involved in 2 or 3 of these incidents before, all of them found wanting for any actual racial abuse/remarks. Seems more like the behaviour of an attention whore from a Manc player (no surprise) who doesn't like an opposition player so uses race to get sympathy from the media/public and to get an opposition (and big rival) player in trouble.

2. Looks like luis said about 2 or 3 different words. So how that turns into saying the same word over 10 times is ludicrous.

3. Suarez barely speaks any English, Evra speaks poor English so how Luis would know any racist words in English when he can just about say the bare basics is a little far-fetched.

What is comes down to for me is either:

a. Luis called him a moron/idiot/diver or something similar for the previous incident at corner. From this Evra genuinely misunderstood and thought it was something racist.

b. Evra knows Luis said nothing of the sort and is basically doing it to get him in trouble.

The latter being most likely.

Well said.

And this 'Luis is hardly a Saint' bull**** is wearing thin. He once handballed an effort on the line in a WC match which anyone would do in the same situation, and a few months later he bit someone on the pitch.

Not as though he's a well-known racist, murdering rapist is it FFS.

[cream]

What if he called him a nobber?

[Lee]

Or a nagger?

[Neil Young]

Well said.

And this 'Luis is hardly a Saint' bull**** is wearing thin. He once handballed an effort on the line in a WC match, and a few months later he bit someone on the pitch.

Not as though he's a well-known racist, murdering rapist is it FFS.

Exactly. Name one saint who hasn't repeatedly bitten people. You can't because they all have.

St Bernard was the worst of course.

[dom9]

Well said.

And this 'Luis is hardly a Saint' bull**** is wearing thin. He once handballed an effort on the line in a WC match which anyone would do in the same situation, and a few months later he bit someone on the pitch.

Not as though he's a well-known racist, murdering rapist is it FFS.

His first touch is far too delicate and controlled.

[fah-q]

And as for the not knowing English excuse, how many swear words do you know in other languages? Loads I imagine. And Negro is used in Spanish, English and other languages, so that is simply not a valid argument for me.

Apart from Afrikaans I don't know the N word in any other language than English without googling. I know what black is in other languages but from Evra's words it would appear he isn't referring to that but the N bomb instead.

I'm not saying there isn't a chance that it might be true but it seems unlikely given the evidence presented so far. As the rest of the fans/media seem to have already convicted Luis I think it's only fair we stick up for him until such time it's proven or not.

[Norbs]

Or a nagger?

He may have said, 'stop niggling at my ankles, you niggler. You're a right old niggler, cuntface'

[Lee]

[RedReet]

Exactly. Name one saint who hasn't repeatedly bitten people. You can't because they all have.

St Bernard was the worst of course.

Actually...



I was wondering if I was drunk, clearly I am.

[Mr Darko]

And as for the not knowing English excuse, how many swear words do you know in other languages? Loads I imagine. And Negro is used in Spanish, English and other languages, so that is simply not a valid argument for me.

I can only see this part of your post from fah-q quoting you as you're on ignore, not quite sure why I'm bothering wasting my time responding to your hate-filled posts. But having spent quite a lot of time studying spanish, norwegian, mandarin, modern hebrew and farsi I only know one swear word, in Spanish - so I don't know why you have the assumption that everyone knows loads of swear words in a foreign language - maybe that says something more about your character if you indeed do. More to the point, first it was a racist word, and now suddenly it's any swear word.

And Negro is used in Spanish,

Yeah it means black, well done, completely different connotations calling someone in spain a negro vs the other N word.

[ChesterDave]

I don't know why you have the assumption that everyone knows loads of swear words in a foreign language - maybe that says something more about your character if you indeed do. More to the point, first it was a racist word, and now suddenly it's any swear word.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Little-Essential-Foreign-Swearwords-Summersdale/dp/1840242396

Cracking little stocking filler

[CJ]

I can only see this part of your post from fah-q quoting you as you're on ignore, not quite sure why I'm bothering wasting my time responding to your hate-filled posts. But having spent quite a lot of time studying spanish, norwegian, mandarin, modern hebrew and farsi I only know one swear word, in Spanish - so I don't know why you have the assumption that everyone knows loads of swear words in a foreign language - maybe that says something more about your character if you indeed do. More to the point, first it was a racist word, and now suddenly it's any swear word.


Yeah it means black, well done, completely different connotations calling someone in spain a negro vs the other N word.

No chris is on holiday