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The set-up under Rafa was geared a lot more to defence, and the back-four benefited from that. The collective defensive strength of the midfield was far superior with combinations like of Hamman/Alonso/Gerrard, Mascher/Alonso/Gerrard or Kuyt. Aside from Lucas, we don't get as much defensive impact from the rest of the midfield, and now that he (Lucas) isn't playing there is even less protection, so the back 5 - with Reina on sweeping duties - is doing really well.
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It's nearly half the season gone now and our finishing is consistently poor - and costing us.Originally posted by rcasemore View Postmissed a chance to close the gap with the Wigan game but we're still there or there abouts. If we can take just a few of the chances we create we'll be top 4 come the end of the season.
So it's simple for me - if we sign a proper finisher, we'll finish in the top 4. If we dont, we wont.
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Aint as certain as you say mate (especially sans Lucas & SuarezOriginally posted by Craig_H View PostIt's nearly half the season gone now and our finishing is consistently poor - and costing us.
So it's simple for me - if we sign a proper finisher, we'll finish in the top 4. If we dont, we wont.

), but it would increase our chances. Hugely.
3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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We also need another holding midfielder and someone who can create chances when Suarez is unavailable.Originally posted by Craig_H View PostIt's nearly half the season gone now and our finishing is consistently poor - and costing us.
So it's simple for me - if we sign a proper finisher, we'll finish in the top 4. If we dont, we wont.
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Maybe so - but i think we can get top four, with what we already have, plus a finisher. Eg, without the holding mid or chance-creator. Without a finisher, we wont do it.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostWe also need another holding midfielder and someone who can create chances when Suarez is unavailable.
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I really don't think we could, our defence already looks exposed without Lucas by some of the worst teams in the league and without Suarez we lack creativity.Originally posted by Craig_H View PostMaybe so - but i think we can get top four, with what we already have, plus a finisher. Eg, without the holding mid or chance-creator. Without a finisher, we wont do it.
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And this is said off the back of three consecutive clean sheets.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostI really don't think we could, our defence already looks exposed without Lucas by some of the worst teams in the league and without Suarez we lack creativity.
Lucas is a big loss, but i dont think his loss will be the decisive factor in terms of whether we get top four or not.
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Yes but is also clear that we were exposed by Wigan far too often, we had the same issues against Fulham. I also think Adam needs a play like Lucas next to him to allow him to play to his strengths.Originally posted by Craig_H View PostAnd this is said off the back of three consecutive clean sheets.
Lucas is a big loss, but i dont think his loss will be the decisive factor in terms of whether we get top four or not.
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It wouldn't hurt for our defence to he exposed a bit more, if we could exploit the space that would be created in front of itOriginally posted by Mattshark View PostYes but is also clear that we were exposed by Wigan far too often, we had the same issues against Fulham. I also think Adam needs a play like Lucas next to him to allow him to play to his strengths.
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