The Race for Champions League Places

[Craig_H]

Not happy with the results but i dont think the points tally is reflective of how we've played across the season. A consistent finisher is all we're missing from being in the top four IMO.

You still didnt answer my question BTW - if Kenny doesnt change his views to suit yours, you basically want him gone yeah?

[Mattshark]

Not happy with the results but i dont think the points tally is reflective of how we've played across the season. A consistent finisher is all we're missing from being in the top four IMO.

You still didnt answer my question BTW - if Kenny doesnt change his views to suit yours, you basically want him gone yeah?

If results don't improve, definitely, if next season is like this he will have to be replaced.

We have the points tally we deserve, we are easy to defend against and have little penetration.

[Craig_H]

And i disagree with you, round and round in circles

[cream]

Not sure what the question is but I'm pretty Kenny is smart enough to change things if they are not working, ie bring in a goal scorer as our current ones don't look like scoring enough, bringing in better wide players in etc. Whatever the issues may be, I fully expect Kenny to address them in the summer.

[Craig_H]

He thought what he brought in last summer were the right signings - you disagree.

What if his idea of addressing it this summer differ from yours again?

[Mattshark]

If what he does in the summer works, that is great an I really hope it does, if not he will almost certainly be gone.

[el matador]

I still think centre midfield is the biggest problem. since lucas got injured weve never really looked dynamic. we have charlie adam who is a poor player in that position. he was really **** yesterday but somehow he lasted the full 98 mins.

we have henderson on the right who contributes nothing from that position and hes only in the team to do adams running. why.not just play henderson there because thats where he played for sunderland and made his england debut but we play him on the right.

stupid because hes a much better central midfield player than adam but kenny persists with one of his own signings who unbalances the team completely.

if the midfield was stronger we would win the ball further up the pitch and put more pressure on the opposition defence. but with adam there we cant win second balls and when we lose the ball adam cant track back.

we miss a lot of chances but tactically we have been poor and thats down to kenny.

[cream]

He thought what he brought in last summer were the right signings - you disagree.

What if his idea of addressing it this summer differ from yours again?

and...

[Craig_H]

and...

So you will want him gone, yeah?

Or do you want him gone already?

[cream]

So you will want him gone, yeah?

Or do you want him gone already?

I don't want him gone.

Are you just trying to get people to say 'sack Kenny' ?

[Muddled]

We're not scoring enough goals, thats a fact. But nobody seems to be criticising our defence. We must have dropped so many home points this season from winning positions.

If we could defend like the 'one nil to the arsenal' team, we'd be a lot closer to the top 4. We need to learn how to defend leads at home better.

We've been in a winning position in all of the following games:

Sunderland (H)
ManU (H)
Norwich (H)
Arsenal (H)

It's because we have the second best defensive record in the Premier League.

The games you have listed, back up your point about us not scoring enough goals; bar Arsenal, those teams scored once in matches we dominated and if we'd been more prolific, they would have been considered consolation goals.

Yes, I'd take a 1-0 win each time, but we have to accept that we will concede goals and if we are looking at areas that we need to improve, our defence won't be high on that agenda.

[Craig_H]

I don't want him gone.

Are you just trying to get people to say 'sack Kenny' ?

No, my point is about people whinging and complaining about stuff, but not really saying what they actually want.

You're not happy with how things are being done - that's fair enough. So what do you want then? If things arent good, what do you want done about it?

You might say you want Kenny to dismiss how he's done things and change to how you want things done - eg, abandon the idea of buying PL proven british players, as one example.

So ok, but what if he doesnt do that? What if he keeps carrying on doing things in a way you disagree with? Are you just going to keep complaining about it but not saying what should be done about it? Or are you actually going to say "things are being done wrong, so this should happen...." ?


If you dont want him gone, why not? Because you believe in his ability to get it right? Great. Then stop whinging every five minutes.

[cream]

No, my point is about people whinging and complaining about stuff, but not really saying what they actually want.

You're not happy with how things are being done - that's fair enough. So what do you want then? If things arent good, what do you want done about it?

You might say you want Kenny to dismiss how he's done things and change to how you want things done - eg, abandon the idea of buying PL proven british players, as one example.

So ok, but what if he doesnt do that? What if he keeps carrying on doing things in a way you disagree with? Are you just going to keep complaining about it but not saying what should be done about it? Or are you actually going to say "things are being done wrong, so this should happen...." ?


If you dont want him gone, why not? Because you believe in his ability to get it right? Great. Then stop whinging every five minutes.

Are you asking football fans around the world to change their ways? that ain't going to happen Craig.

[Kenneth]

The philosophy being 'PL proven' british players.

ok, then he needs to get better at it. Nothing really against that philosophy, but Adam,Carroll and Henderson have barely two full years PL experience between them. The only British player properly established in the PL is Downing, and the consensus view is that he has always been average. Philosophy ok, excecution lacking.

[Kenneth]

I don't want him gone.

Are you just trying to get people to say 'sack Kenny' ?

clearly, on the very spurious grounds that they are being critical of any aspect of his tenure. Daft in the extreme.